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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 11:36 PM
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Ok, I spun a rod bearing on my car, im reusing 7 stock rods THAT ARE STILL GOOD and 1 new rod ( whole assembly balanced), brand new flatop pistons and remanufactured crank and arp head and rod bolts and arp main stud kit. i plan on spraying it but how much can i spray the engine? im new to nitrous but im full bolt ons, brian tooley stage 4 ls1 cam, and ported 241 heada and stage 2 4l60e. how much whp i make on motor? Thanks! ps dont flame me bc im sensitive

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What fuel pump do you have? 150 shot is generally the highest people suggest on a stock bottom end. You should go ahead and put some forged rods and pistons in it while you have it apart, you will we able to spray a lot more
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 12:21 PM
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im just goin stay stock with the internals because im bout to start my new build. i have a walboro 255 fuel pump.
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 12:22 PM
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What fuel pump do you have? 150 shot is generally the highest people suggest on a stock bottom end. You should go ahead and put some forged rods and pistons in it while you have it apart, you will we able to spray a lot more
walboro 255. Im stayin with stock pistons and rods, money is tight and soon im planning on another build soon.
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I have the 255 pump and the racetronix Hotwire kit. With the Hotwire that pump is good to 600-650hp. I spray a 150 on car. I have the same cam as you with 243's and a fast 102
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Like others are saying I wouldn't go over a 150 shot in general. Your setup might be around 420 on motor (depends on the dyno) and maybe 550 on a 150 hit
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 04:05 PM
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I run 250 shot.
It's all in the setup. Get a good tune in it and send it.
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Like others are saying I wouldn't go over a 150 shot in general. Your setup might be around 420 on motor (depends on the dyno) and maybe 550 on a 150 hit
Damn people are telling me i should be a low or mid 400whp but does it really depend on the tune?
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Damn people are telling me i should be a low or mid 400whp but does it really depend on the tune?
I think it would surprise you. It can make a huge difference, as much as some mods themselves.
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I think it would surprise you. It can make a huge difference, as much as some mods themselves.
Im expecting the car to go haul ***, but whos a actual good tuner? im from st louis and looking for a tuner because my tuner is retiring soon and im looking for a tuner that can make the car move.
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Yes the tune itself is very important, but what I'm saying is that dyno numbers can vary, so its hard to say what kind of numbers it will put down
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Ok, I spun a rod bearing on my car, im reusing 7 stock rods THAT ARE STILL GOOD and 1 new rod ( whole assembly balanced), brand new flatop pistons and remanufactured crank and arp head and rod bolts and arp main stud kit. i plan on spraying it but how much can i spray the engine? im new to nitrous but im full bolt ons, brian tooley stage 4 ls1 cam, and ported 241 heada and stage 2 4l60e. how much whp i make on motor? Thanks! ps dont flame me bc im sensitive
What type of pistons?
What did you gap your rings at?

Those two things will have a lot to do with how big of hit you can/should run.

Are you using a nozzle, plate or direct port?

Another thing is if you are using a progressive controller or just one shot.

Obviously you want to run a colder non projected plug like a BR7.

2 very important things are
1. Learn how to read spark plugs

2. Don't run a rich AFR on the spray. I see people all the time say keep it rich keep it rich, rich is safe. That's old school mentality that's not true and not safe. Whatever AFR the engine makes peak/safe power at NA is, it should be the same on the juice.
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Damn people are telling me i should be a low or mid 400whp but does it really depend on the tune?
Honestly it depends a lot on the dyno. They all read different, some low, some high, some stupid high.

The tune part, for N/A is the easy part, "generally 12.7-13.0 AFR and around 26-28 degrees of timing" for a GEN III engine. Again I said, generally. Each engine will be different and likes what it likes, kinda like a woman.

Depending on how good your converter and port work is, and if you are pulling it locked/unlocked. On a honest dyno I'd expect around 400.
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Stand alone fuel system for nitrous. Its pretty cheap and pretty easy to do and much safer. You wont need a crazy big pump or crazy amounts of fuel pressure. Small auxillary tank tucked up inside your front bumper
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
Honestly it depends a lot on the dyno. They all read different, some low, some high, some stupid high.

The tune part, for N/A is the easy part, "generally 12.7-13.0 AFR and around 26-28 degrees of timing" for a GEN III engine. Again I said, generally. Each engine will be different and likes what it likes, kinda like a woman.

Depending on how good your converter and port work is, and if you are pulling it locked/unlocked. On a honest dyno I'd expect around 400.
im bout to run a torquemaster 3600 stall
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
What type of pistons?
What did you gap your rings at?

Those two things will have a lot to do with how big of hit you can/should run.

Are you using a nozzle, plate or direct port?

Another thing is if you are using a progressive controller or just one shot.

Obviously you want to run a colder non projected plug like a BR7.

2 very important things are
1. Learn how to read spark plugs

2. Don't run a rich AFR on the spray. I see people all the time say keep it rich keep it rich, rich is safe. That's old school mentality that's not true and not safe. Whatever AFR the engine makes peak/safe power at NA is, it should be the same on the juice.
I been looking at air fuel ratio gauges and widebands, i want to run a aem but cant find a dual wideband setup so i can run the sensor on each header. i havent purchased the system off my buddy but the one i may buy off him is a direct port system. and im getting a progressive controller.
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Why are you wanting to run two widebands?
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
Why are you wanting to run two widebands?
You don't need two, I have one that is mostly used on the driver's side. If I'm paranoid I'll toss the sensor in the passenger side just to make sure its the same.

I spray 150 through a single nozzle. Plugs look good, afr is good, car pulls harrrrdd.
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Old Oct 26, 2017 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SlasherVRGR
You don't need two, I have one that is mostly used on the driver's side. If I'm paranoid I'll toss the sensor in the passenger side just to make sure its the same.

I spray 150 through a single nozzle. Plugs look good, afr is good, car pulls harrrrdd.
I thought I need 2 sensors to check the air fuel on each side of the engine?
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Why are you wanting to run two widebands?
2 sensors.. if i run one, how am i supposed to know what my afr is on the passenger side?
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