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Old Dec 23, 2017 | 12:13 PM
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 10:01 AM
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Surprising. Figured the 799 heads would be king. Wonder if results would be different if they tested using a larger engine than the 5.3?
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Old Jan 8, 2018 | 05:27 PM
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Wow, numbers don't lie, and in this case it wasn't the flow numbers but the horsepower numbers...
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Old Jan 8, 2018 | 06:08 PM
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Would be cool if the milled the 799 to achieve near the same combustion chamber size and or tighten the quench with a thinner gasket to achieve the same compression ratio.

Put them on an equal playing field and see how they fair

Would also be cool if they test a ported set of 706 castings from a few different vendors to see what kind of bang you get for your buck. Maybe they will do a stage 2???
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Old Jan 8, 2018 | 09:33 PM
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The test was as even as possible. Grab some junkyard heads, clean them up, new springs and gaskets and see what happens.

The results shouldn't be a surprise. A NA motor can only hold so much air and all the heads easily supply that amount. With that in mind it becomes predictable that the final rankings are in line with the compression.

I'd be interested in seeing if the bore diameter mismatch would cause any detonation issues. I'd imagine with cheap gas and sharp edges you may get some knocking once the engine gets hot. Not sure how the transition is so I may be over stating the issue though
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Old Jan 8, 2018 | 09:55 PM
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I would agree that it was a fair back to back test, However alot of people mill them to bring the compression back around.

So it would be nice to see what happens when you do so. Just as was nice to see a back to back stock for stock comparison. 1 Of the first things I typically hear for others telling someone looking to make some more power on a 5.3L, is to get rid of those junk heads and find some 243/799 heads. They flow more...

It's nice to see actual proof.


And your forgetting the most important part of the nonsense spewed on the internet...
243/799 are the best of the best factory castings....
706 are junk because they will crack... or so alot of people think any way
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862 have a better rep than the 706. The 243/799 is still probably the better overall head with the larger valve size on a 3.9 or 4.0 bore. A difference of 2 hp on a 400 hp engine isn't even gonna matter.
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 06:40 PM
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Is the 799 head better than 317s on a 6.0? Do you think the 799s would make more power N/A and under boost? If the compression was about the same
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 06:54 PM
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Is the 799 head better than 317s on a 6.0? Do you think the 799s would make more power N/A and under boost? If the compression was about the same
In stock form the 799 head will create more compression therefore better n/a. The 317 will be less compression therefore better for boost
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Interesting test and always fun to see fair consistent tests but it just goes to show what works best on the 5.3. Also shows that Chevy knows what they're doing when they match heads to blocks. I would imagine a similar shootout would favor 241/243/799 heads on 5.7 and 6.0 which makes sense that they came like that from the factory.
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I believe you, so how do you explain the move to putting 243/799's on all the newer 5.3's, which DO make more power?
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I believe you, so how do you explain the move to putting 243/799's on all the newer 5.3's, which DO make more power?
Well, to be fair, they upgraded the truck intake as well when they put 243 heads on he 5.3.
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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 09:53 PM
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So they DID need some more airflow to get the extra power. Heads and manifold; kinda how we do it!
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So would a ported truck intake (old style) be a better match to 799 heads?
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mikedamageinc
So would a ported truck intake (old style) be a better match to 799 heads?
Unless you already have an older truck intake, use a newer style since it matches the ports anyway?
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wannafbody
Well, to be fair, they upgraded the truck intake as well when they put 243 heads on he 5.3.
Don't forget they also went to a flat top piston in the Gen IV 5.3L engines for a slight increase in compression...

It's the package as a whole. Not the individual parts. It only makes 20 more Hp and torque or so more than the previous Gen 3 platforum.

Gen 3 later LM7 or L59 is 295HP/ 315-320ish Ft Lbs of torque.

Gen 4 LY5 or LC9 is 315-320HP /335-340ish Ft lbs of torque
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Old Jan 17, 2018 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Unless you already have an older truck intake, use a newer style since it matches the ports anyway?
I do already have an older intake, but if its gonna hurt power I might look into a better one.
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Old Jan 17, 2018 | 11:15 AM
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I think you'll be OK with the truck intake.
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