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More true dual questions... Hey everyone. I'm saving money like I never have before, trying to get enough for some decent mods. I want to start with true dual exhaust and was wondering if it could work with shorty headers. I saw the Edelbrock shorties they had on Horsepower TV (yes, I know the dyno test probably wasn't accurate) and liked those, because they're emissions legal and cheaper than the LT's I was looking at, and probably easier to install as well. Are they ok or should I just get Kook's or Hookers or something (No Flowtech/Pacesetter)? I was going to get a custom Speed, Inc. true dual setup, but I'm thinking about buying my mufflers of choice, a H-pipe (not X), and possibly some cats then having one of my buddies, who does exhaust, help me fabricate a custom system dumping before the axle. Sound like a good idea? I was thinking I could get EXACTLY what I want and more than likely save some money too. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by bull99ls1
Hey everyone. I'm saving money like I never have before, trying to get enough for some decent mods. I want to start with true dual exhaust and was wondering if it could work with shorty headers. I saw the Edelbrock shorties they had on Horsepower TV (yes, I know the dyno test probably wasn't accurate) and liked those, because they're emissions legal and cheaper than the LT's I was looking at, and probably easier to install as well. Are they ok or should I just get Kook's or Hookers or something (No Flowtech/Pacesetter)? I was going to get a custom Speed, Inc. true dual setup, but I'm thinking about buying my mufflers of choice, a H-pipe (not X), and possibly some cats then having one of my buddies, who does exhaust, help me fabricate a custom system dumping before the axle. Sound like a good idea? I was thinking I could get EXACTLY what I want and more than likely save some money too. Thanks.
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Also I was just currious as to why your planning on an H pipe vs. an X? I've always been a fan on the X but i havent heard that many people going with the H. 
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shorties aren't much easier to install. if you gotta put headers on, get lt's or don't waste your time. Don't **** on pacesetters too much. I even go tthe painted ones to save money and they still look great (had em since november). And i made 340 rwhp untuned with them on a 98z. so they make the power. I did clean up some of the **** inside, which took all of 2 minutes and some common sense.
now for the x vs h thing. I came from teh mustang crowd and this is what i learned there. X will make a better sound with straight through mufflers. Very refined, smooth sound and you will typically pick up more power. An H pipe will yeild more power down low, the sound is typically more raw, an older v8 sound.
for the record about emissions...if you have rear tail pipe emissions tests, you'll pass with ease with lts and cats. With carsound cats in my y pipe with lts through a hooker catback (my first of 10 exhaust set ups) i passed with flying colors.
now for the x vs h thing. I came from teh mustang crowd and this is what i learned there. X will make a better sound with straight through mufflers. Very refined, smooth sound and you will typically pick up more power. An H pipe will yeild more power down low, the sound is typically more raw, an older v8 sound.
for the record about emissions...if you have rear tail pipe emissions tests, you'll pass with ease with lts and cats. With carsound cats in my y pipe with lts through a hooker catback (my first of 10 exhaust set ups) i passed with flying colors.
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ohmyneck, you goin with duels? what muffler shop would you go to? i called performance muffler in norman and they gave me a great estimate price.
i have heard basically the same as slik, x makes more power and sounds better with straight through muffs, but h's sound better with chambered muffs
i have heard basically the same as slik, x makes more power and sounds better with straight through muffs, but h's sound better with chambered muffs
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I always heard that the X-pipe offered slightly increased power, while the H-pipe sounded a wee bit better??
Don't get shorties!! Look at Mac mid-lengths or pacesetters if you want cheap ones.
As for emissions, that depends on what kind of tests they use. I passed the emissions here (my county and one next to me the only two in the whole GD state that have them!!!) with my exhaust the way it is now
Don't get shorties!! Look at Mac mid-lengths or pacesetters if you want cheap ones.
As for emissions, that depends on what kind of tests they use. I passed the emissions here (my county and one next to me the only two in the whole GD state that have them!!!) with my exhaust the way it is now
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As for emissions, that depends on what kind of tests they use. I passed the emissions here (my county and one next to me the only two in the whole GD state that have them!!!) with my exhaust the way it is now
I had Macs on my car and switched to the flowtechs. I am not personally impressed with the flowtechs at all. I am going to switch them out to a set of QTP's here REAL soon. If I had it to do over again, I would have just kept my macs.
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ohmyneck, you goin with duels? what muffler shop would you go to? i called performance muffler in norman and they gave me a great estimate price.
i have heard basically the same as slik, x makes more power and sounds better with straight through muffs, but h's sound better with chambered muffs
i have heard basically the same as slik, x makes more power and sounds better with straight through muffs, but h's sound better with chambered muffs
I'm going with the flow pro twisties which all come welded together and with an X-pipe. Will sound pretty nice if I can ever get my other toys sold. 
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ya, i would do lanes also...but i dont wanna spend that much honestly. performance quoted me 190 for an H without mufflers which is an excellent price, now i just gotta see some pics or cars they have done so i can make my decision. if you know of anyone who has had them done there shoot me a pm.
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Hey everyone, thanks for responding. So say I go with Pacesetter long tubes, some 3" tubing, two high-flow catalytic convertors (say Catco's), a Flowtech X-pipe or custom adapted Mac ProChamber H-pipe, and Magnaflow 4"x9" oval or Spintech Pro-Street mufflers, would that be a good setup?
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Thanks. Actually, the only reason I'm really looking at 3" is because the X-pipe I want is 3". If I could find 2.5" I don't think I'd mind that. Would there be any huge performance loss or gain by stepping down .5"? Thank you all for enlightening a newbie.
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Originally Posted by bull99ls1
Say if I decide to actually splurge and get some Hooker headers with 3" collectors, could I even run 2.5" exhaust? Doesn't it have to be 3" as well?
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Thanks everyone. Actually, I'm doing it more for the performance gain and quality of the sound, so I'm sure 2.5" would be plenty loud. Are these reducers common? I'm sure I just probably haven't seen them. Do they hurt performance at all?
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You could get an X-pipe setup that is 3" into the pipe and 2.5" out. I think that will work very well. Some people will argue that ist he best for performance, because the exhaust gases shrink as they cool after leaving the engine and the smaller diam. pipe further from the engine will allow the velocity of the shrinking gas to remain high. As was stated, finding a good shop is one of the hardest things for people doing duals but Speed Inc will serve you well 