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Old Oct 14, 2018 | 09:56 AM
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I have a 2012 Silverado ext cab 5.3 and I have long tube headers and y pipe and I got 268 to the wheels.
my buddy has a 2010 Silverado 4 door silverado 5.3 and he said he got around 280 to wheels without headers.
I have 22 steelies and he has 22 replicas.
if I got lighter rims will my dyno numbers go up ?
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Old Oct 14, 2018 | 10:22 AM
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From what I've heard the weight will effect the numbers but so will the tire compound
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I think the main way heavy rims would affect things is the "flywheel effect". Harder to get spinning, but once going, tougher to slow down.
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Old Oct 14, 2018 | 10:46 AM
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If it's an inertial dyno (DynoJet) then yes they will have an effect.

If it's a steady-state type (Mustang) then no.

I don't think your wheels are having near that much effect. To me that looks like you're about 30 HP short of a direct comparison to your bud's. Of course dynos don't work that way; different "correction factors", among other things, can DRAMATICALLY influence the absolute #s you get from one. They're not like a thermometer or a bathroom scale or something. Only meaningful comparison would be, run one, back it off, run the other. Same dyno, same operator, same day, same conditions. Anything else, who knows what you'll get.
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Old Oct 14, 2018 | 10:50 AM
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If it's an inertial dyno (DynoJet) then yes they will have an effect.

If it's a steady-state type (Mustang) then no.

I don't think your wheels are having near that much effect. To me that looks like you're about 30 HP short of a direct comparison to your bud's. Of course dynos don't work that way; different "correction factors", among other things, can DRAMATICALLY influence the absolute #s you get from one. They're not like a thermometer or a bathroom scale or something. Only meaningful comparison would be, run one, back it off, run the other. Same dyno, same operator, same day, same conditions. Anything else, who knows what you'll get.
same place same person different day dyno jet
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Saw a comment long time ago 18 pound factory rim vs heavy ~30 pound aftermarket rim with same tires on a Dyno. The 30 pound rim dyno'd 3 to 4 whp less than the 18 pound rim.

Also saw where a higher hp car with a set of tires that spun dyno'd 50 whp less than the same car did when , some VHT was sprayed and the tires didn't spin.
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Interesting. I would think that unsprung weight would lower dyno HPs, just as heavier wheels slow you down and affect braking at the track. Of course not that much, but maybe so.
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The reason heavy wheels slow acceleration and braking on a track IS the flywheel effect. Hard to get rolling, once rolling, hard to stop.
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BTW - while the 30 pound rims had a ~3hp loss on the dyno, it's actually worse than that real world. On the dyno only two rear wheels were turning. On the street all four heavy 30 pound rims are turning so I think it is really more like ~6-8whp is being wasted by those heavy rims.
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I'm about to change rims and redyno I'll post what the difference is probably next week
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Looking forward to your update.

Here's a test with three sets of rims on a 2012 SS Camaro that's a good read.

Light vs heavy rims dyno'd on 2012 SS Camaro
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same place same person different day dyno jet
Well there ya go; the #s aren't going to necessarily equate to each other. Doesn't take much to send em into the ozone.

Doesn't too much matte in the end though. Although I'll race just about ANYTHING, even a few things I'm embarrassed to admit I've actually raced against ... another, can't say I've ever raced one dyno # against another before. Best to just concentrate on how the truck PERFORMS as opposed to trying to generate eye-popping dyno numbers.
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Old Oct 18, 2018 | 05:01 AM
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Big difference in the real world.
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