2nd attempt at posting about needing help with Spark Plug Wires
I've had one experience with their wires several years ago and wasn't impressed at all. Ended up throwing them away and going back to MSD.
1. Their HP gains they claim is bullshit. Did back to back testing on the dyno
2. I had multiple wires break when trying to remove them from the plugs. Yes I know how to remove a plug boot. Didn't have that problem with the stock wires, or the MSD's. Yes they are lifetime warranty. So i sent the 1st one back and put an old MSD wire on it while i waited on the replacement. Then I had 2 more break. Threw them in the trash, put all the MSD wires back on and haven't looked back since. Personally I think people say they are so great because of their claims and they are ******* expensive. I can tell you I've made A LOT of power on stock wires.
Just my experience. Sorry OP I didn't mean to highjack your thread. I'll keep quiet now.
1. Their HP gains they claim is bullshit. Did back to back testing on the dyno
2. I had multiple wires break when trying to remove them from the plugs. Yes I know how to remove a plug boot. Didn't have that problem with the stock wires, or the MSD's. Yes they are lifetime warranty. So i sent the 1st one back and put an old MSD wire on it while i waited on the replacement. Then I had 2 more break. Threw them in the trash, put all the MSD wires back on and haven't looked back since. Personally I think people say they are so great because of their claims and they are ******* expensive. I can tell you I've made A LOT of power on stock wires.
Just my experience. Sorry OP I didn't mean to highjack your thread. I'll keep quiet now.
I've had one experience with their wires several years ago and wasn't impressed at all. Ended up throwing them away and going back to MSD.
1. Their HP gains they claim is bullshit. Did back to back testing on the dyno
2. I had multiple wires break when trying to remove them from the plugs. Yes I know how to remove a plug boot. Didn't have that problem with the stock wires, or the MSD's. Yes they are lifetime warranty. So i sent the 1st one back and put an old MSD wire on it while i waited on the replacement. Then I had 2 more break. Threw them in the trash, put all the MSD wires back on and haven't looked back since. Personally I think people say they are so great because of their claims and they are ******* expensive. I can tell you I've made A LOT of power on stock wires.
Just my experience. Sorry OP I didn't mean to highjack your thread. I'll keep quiet now.
1. Their HP gains they claim is bullshit. Did back to back testing on the dyno
2. I had multiple wires break when trying to remove them from the plugs. Yes I know how to remove a plug boot. Didn't have that problem with the stock wires, or the MSD's. Yes they are lifetime warranty. So i sent the 1st one back and put an old MSD wire on it while i waited on the replacement. Then I had 2 more break. Threw them in the trash, put all the MSD wires back on and haven't looked back since. Personally I think people say they are so great because of their claims and they are ******* expensive. I can tell you I've made A LOT of power on stock wires.
Just my experience. Sorry OP I didn't mean to highjack your thread. I'll keep quiet now.
Personally I use OEM unless I have headers, then I use the MSD's because I've had great luck with them and you can bend them to stay off the header and don't need heat sleeves etc to protect the wires.
Warranty does not equal quality.
Warranties are used as a selling point knowing x-amount of people won't bother to make a claim or will lose the paperwork needed to make the claim.
Most people don't realize that a 60 month battery is the same exact battery sold as a 72 month battery, The only difference is price and the increased price is just to cover the cost of offering a longer warranty. Same thing with many tires, They are made from the same materials/construction but have a different warranty rating.
Warranties are used as a selling point knowing x-amount of people won't bother to make a claim or will lose the paperwork needed to make the claim.
Most people don't realize that a 60 month battery is the same exact battery sold as a 72 month battery, The only difference is price and the increased price is just to cover the cost of offering a longer warranty. Same thing with many tires, They are made from the same materials/construction but have a different warranty rating.
I'm not saying the wires are good or bad but many of the cheaper wires will test as good ( Being a short wire helps), It doesn't have anything to do with how well they hold up. Only time will tell.
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Back around 2011 there was a thread going around about pros and cons of different ignition wires.I don't remember what site it was on, maybe here.
So these pics were my contribution to that thread.
Back then my z had about 25,000 miles on it. Now it has about 52,000 miles.
It's been dynoed three times and it's made 350 min. -375 h.p. at the wheels. All with bolt ons. I'm not saying the wires contributed to it. But I am saying the wires haven't caused any lose of power in the 8 years they've been in.
I'm glad you didn't, There is no power to gain with good plug wires, Only power to lose with bad wires. Reminds me of audiophile people that claim their stereo sounds better because they are using $100 optical cables with gold plated ends.
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Unless you can say that you've used the product and had issues why would you bad mouth the product. Or is it you know someone who knew someone, etc.
I wrote about my positive experience with the product not some hearsay
I don't believe in bad mouthing a product without first hand experience.
Show us the link where they claim:
"Increase power to the spark plug up to 400% over stock".... Increase power to plug possibly because lower resistance creates a hotter spark ?
"Improves mileage and throttle response".....Again hotter spark ?
Last edited by jg rider; Nov 5, 2019 at 11:23 PM.
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Wow ! found this thread going back from 2005 to 2017 when it was closed. It's about 16 pages long
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...rwhp-gain.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...rwhp-gain.html
As far as hotter spark... Their wires do not make the spark, They simply pass it along to the spark plugs. There are lots of wires that are just as capable that don't cost over $200 a set. Resistance on such a short length of wire should be low. They might be great wires but stupid claims like that make them look like they are selling snake oil.
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It's in the description of the plug wires on their website. 2005-2013 GM LS2/LS7/LS3 Cars Coil-Near-Plug Conn Kit (Hi Temp Red)
As far as hotter spark... Their wires do not make the spark, They simply pass it along to the spark plugs. There are lots of wires that are just as capable that don't cost over $200 a set. Resistance on such a short length of wire should be low. They might be great wires but stupid claims like that make them look like they are selling snake oil.
As far as hotter spark... Their wires do not make the spark, They simply pass it along to the spark plugs. There are lots of wires that are just as capable that don't cost over $200 a set. Resistance on such a short length of wire should be low. They might be great wires but stupid claims like that make them look like they are selling snake oil.
Look at the pics I posted, the stock wires had 351 ohms resistance compared to the 00.1 ohm of the Granateli wire.
Bottom line, I've been perfectly happy with my 2011 purchase of these wires at $105.00. That's my personal experience. Not some non experience opinion
What ever is giving me the quick throttle response, the 350 -375 whp, 20 mpg, and fast times, I'm not gonna over look the wires.
Good night
Last edited by jg rider; Nov 6, 2019 at 01:31 AM.
I did mean a non restrictive hotter current to the plugs for a hotter spark.
Look at the pics I posted, the stock wires had 351 ohms resistance compared to the 00.1 ohm of the Granateli wire.
Bottom line, I've been perfectly happy with my 2011 purchase of these wires at $105.00. That's my personal experience. Not some non experience opinion
What ever is giving me the quick throttle response, the 350 -375 whp, 20 mpg, and fast times, I'm not gonna over look the wires.
Good night
Look at the pics I posted, the stock wires had 351 ohms resistance compared to the 00.1 ohm of the Granateli wire.
Bottom line, I've been perfectly happy with my 2011 purchase of these wires at $105.00. That's my personal experience. Not some non experience opinion
What ever is giving me the quick throttle response, the 350 -375 whp, 20 mpg, and fast times, I'm not gonna over look the wires.
Good night
A wire with some resistance is still going to do the job and not lose power or mileage, The "Increase power to the spark plug up to 400% over stock" claim would likely be comparing it to a plug wire that is no longer any good, Not a new stock plug wire. If those claims were true every car made would be running them. They can be a good wire but common sense says that they aren't that damn good.
I Posted this yesterday and it said it needed to be authorized by an admin and so far, nothing was ever done and the post never made it.
I am seeking some help with Spark Plug Wires.
I am concerned with performance as much as I am with Aesthetics. So I have been looking for the Taylor Spiro Pro Wires in Lime Green for an LS1-LS family of engines and they do not seem to make it in this particular color. I was wondering if anyone else had done a universal set either the 8 MM or 10.4 MM wire sets and cut them and crimped them by themselves or do you all just buy whatever is available over the counter and just deal with what you can get your hands on? I like the lime green as a contrast color. I am an airbrush artist as well as other things, and when I do a project, I worry about the aesthetics as much as I do the end results with performance.
So my main question is, Can a 10.4 MM Taylor wire set be used on an LS1/LS engine family? Or do the universal sets not come with the correct boot setups to complete this task?
I plan to do quite a bit of airbrushing on the underside of the hood and on various parts and pieces under the hood, fabricate or purchase covers for things, a strut tower brace and things are perfect candidates to airbrush artwork on prior to installing them. While I have an extensive history of doing corvettes and have a side business doing C3 and some C2 corvette restorations and part sales from parting out many C3 vettes, and have a few trans ams of various years, and other cars for sale for projects, or parts cars or restored cars (have 7 big block corvettes in line to be restored at the moment, 4 speeds, convertibles, automatics, T Top Coupes etc. with various options and such.
I just picked up this white WS6 with a 6 speed in white as a driver and wish to spruce it up a bit because most airbrush artists like myself usually can not keep their hands to themselves and will airbrush just about anything they can get their hands on.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all appreciate your time.
Jennifur
I am seeking some help with Spark Plug Wires.
I am concerned with performance as much as I am with Aesthetics. So I have been looking for the Taylor Spiro Pro Wires in Lime Green for an LS1-LS family of engines and they do not seem to make it in this particular color. I was wondering if anyone else had done a universal set either the 8 MM or 10.4 MM wire sets and cut them and crimped them by themselves or do you all just buy whatever is available over the counter and just deal with what you can get your hands on? I like the lime green as a contrast color. I am an airbrush artist as well as other things, and when I do a project, I worry about the aesthetics as much as I do the end results with performance.
So my main question is, Can a 10.4 MM Taylor wire set be used on an LS1/LS engine family? Or do the universal sets not come with the correct boot setups to complete this task?
I plan to do quite a bit of airbrushing on the underside of the hood and on various parts and pieces under the hood, fabricate or purchase covers for things, a strut tower brace and things are perfect candidates to airbrush artwork on prior to installing them. While I have an extensive history of doing corvettes and have a side business doing C3 and some C2 corvette restorations and part sales from parting out many C3 vettes, and have a few trans ams of various years, and other cars for sale for projects, or parts cars or restored cars (have 7 big block corvettes in line to be restored at the moment, 4 speeds, convertibles, automatics, T Top Coupes etc. with various options and such.
I just picked up this white WS6 with a 6 speed in white as a driver and wish to spruce it up a bit because most airbrush artists like myself usually can not keep their hands to themselves and will airbrush just about anything they can get their hands on.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all appreciate your time.
Jennifur