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Old Jun 28, 2022 | 05:21 PM
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I've recently finished fully rebuilding a 2003 5.3 and upon attempting to start it on the stand, it will not start. I can hear the injectors clicking and when I unplug the crank sensor they stop clicking when turning the engine. The coils are getting 12v and ground and I've checked every ground I could think of. Used a different harness that I've run a 5.3 in a stand with before to the same issue. Swapped crank sensor and cam sensor multiple times to no avail. Any advice?
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Old Jun 28, 2022 | 06:00 PM
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Check ALL connections and grounds. You would be amazed at how often this is the culprit...
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are you using the factory fuse block? Is the harness factory or did you rework it? Double check everything as G Atsma suggested. There are many videos online to show how LS engines are ran on the stand.
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Old Jun 28, 2022 | 07:13 PM
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are you using the factory fuse block? Is the harness factory or did you rework it? Double check everything as G Atsma suggested. There are many videos online to show how LS engines are ran on the stand.
Reworked harness that I did myself, ran engines on the stand with the harness before no problem. Tried another harness aswell like I said and it's the exact same issue with both.
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Went back over the harness again and checked every 12v and ground I could think of, everything seems good and still no spark. I don't think this would have anything to do with it but I have an aftermarket cam installed from summit racing, could that be causing the no spark?
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thanks to lt1swap.com ---check this out
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The coils are "hot" with key in run and crank position. They receive a ground from the pcm to charge the primary winding inside the coil. The pcm interrupts the ground to the primary winding of the coil causing the voltage induced in the secondary winding of the coil to be released by the spart plug wire. Much better explanation by Denso
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Are you certain the coils are powered while cranking? Not just key "on" position

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Originally Posted by jetech
Are you certain the coils are powered while cranking? Not just key "on" position
Yes, to crank the engine I just directly jump the starter and I can still hear the injectors clicking while cranking. I don't know if this is of any importance but when hooking the engine up to hptuners vcm scanner and cranking the engine it does not register any rpm. I don't know if it's just not spinning fast enough or if there's an issue with the ckp. It doesn't make any sense because the injectors fire based on the crank position.
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Are you using the factory fuse block with a harness you reworked? How are you suppling 12v to the pcm? Check 12v power at pcm C1 pins 19 & 75.
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Originally Posted by jetech
Are you using the factory fuse block with a harness you reworked? How are you suppling 12v to the pcm? Check 12v power at pcm C1 pins 19 & 75.
Not using factory fuse block, just supplying 12v to all the pink wires and orange wires and cranking the engine.
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If you are certain your harness and sensors are good, that pretty much leaves the pcm. Do you have another known good one to try?
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Originally Posted by jetech
If you are certain your harness and sensors are good, that pretty much leaves the pcm. Do you have another known good one to try?
I've tried two pcms that I know work as I've run engines in one and one out of another 5 3 truck, same thing with both.
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Well that rules out that. Did you use a spark checker to actually see no spark?
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Running out of possibilities. Could the timing gear be off 180*?
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Have you checked for dtc's
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Originally Posted by jetech
Running out of possibilities. Could the timing gear be off 180*?
Timing gear was set so that the dot on the timing gear and cam gear were facing eachother, haven't used a spark checker but I can jump the coils at the coil bulkhead and get visible spark out of all the plugs, and there's no dtcs at all.
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Update: I had been reading some threads and someone suggested jumping pins a and c on the ckp pigtail, so I did that a couple times and heard the injectors clicking then one of the plugs fired, causing one of the cylinders to fire. I'm lost as to what this could be, I've tried two different crank sensors already... Could it be a bad reluctor wheel?
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According to this article it is possible not to have any spark or spark at the wrong time. Did you remove the reluctor wheel? Read
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Originally Posted by jetech
According to this article it is possible not to have any spark or spark at the wrong time. Did you remove the reluctor wheel? Read
I did not remove the reluctor wheel, but wouldn't the injectors not pulse if there was no reluctor wheel or something wrong with the reluctor wheel?
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