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Old Jan 7, 2025 | 08:06 PM
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Default Intake manifold for 6000-7800 rpm

Setup is a Turbo 4.8 that will be pushing high boost, 24-30 psi and will have a power range of roughly 6000 to 8000 rpm.

​I don't know how badly the NNBS/TBSS intake manifold will hurt power at 7000 rpm versus a Holley Hi-Ram for example. Some have said the LS6 intake might be a surprisingly good option over the typical metal intakes up to 7500 rpm.
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Old Jan 7, 2025 | 08:18 PM
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Look at the BTR Trinity intake.
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Old Jan 7, 2025 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wannafbody
Look at the BTR Trinity intake.
Thank you, I'll check it out.
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Old Jan 7, 2025 | 10:50 PM
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Jack Roberts (Squirrel tuned) ran an Edelbrock Pro Flo intake manifold when he made his stock 4.8 record 1/4 mike passes. It looks like the Btr Trinity makes a touch more above 6500 rpm versus the Edelbrock. Holley Hi-ram would be way too tall for my hood/application, but it looks like the Edelbrock is lower than the Hi-ram (and makes nearly identical power according to a Holdener video).

So on paper, it will be a choice between the Btr Trinity and Edelbrock Pro Flo. Assuming a TBSS intake manifold will heavily nose over by 7000 rpm versus the Trinity/Edelbrock, but have yet to see a direct dyno comparison.

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Old Jan 7, 2025 | 11:22 PM
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I think I have my answer now, definitely doesn't seem like the TBSS will be one of my choices, seems to dip down too hard up top.


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Old Jan 8, 2025 | 07:52 AM
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If you have rec port heads, you might consider short/mid runner FAST 102.
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Old Jan 8, 2025 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by grubinski
If you have rec port heads, you might consider short/mid runner FAST 102.
I have Cathedral heads but thank you for the suggestion.
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Dyno graphs comparing intake manifolds are a bit unreliable when it comes to finding out where power falls off. A lot of that is based on the setup itself. A turbo setup is more likely to hold power better up top, and a different camshaft could have completely different results yet again.

My stock gen 3 truck intake manifold was still climbing in power above 7000 RPM in my old 4.8, but I very carefully chose my cam/turbo combo as well as header primary diameter/length/pairing etc to make sure everything worked right.
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AwesomeAuto
Dyno graphs comparing intake manifolds are a bit unreliable when it comes to finding out where power falls off. A lot of that is based on the setup itself. A turbo setup is more likely to hold power better up top, and a different camshaft could have completely different results yet again.

My stock gen 3 truck intake manifold was still climbing in power above 7000 RPM in my old 4.8, but I very carefully chose my cam/turbo combo as well as header primary diameter/length/pairing etc to make sure everything worked right.
Very good point, I like real world chassis dyno examples like yours over the engine dyno. I'm impressed the gen 3 truck intake climbed so high up, what cam specs again? Thanks
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226/232 110 LSA with 4 50mm turbos. Completely stock Gen 3 4.8 otherwise. Went 9.80 at just 9 PSI with a converter that was so tight it took me almost 8 seconds on the line to hit the 2 step limiter and I was dropping 2600-2800 RPM on the 1-2 shift, shifting at 7600. It would have had 9.50s at that boost level with just a converter swap. Crazy efficient setup.
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AwesomeAuto
226/232 110 LSA with 4 50mm turbos. Completely stock Gen 3 4.8 otherwise. Went 9.80 at just 9 PSI with a converter that was so tight it took me almost 8 seconds on the line to hit the 2 step limiter and I was dropping 2600-2800 RPM on the 1-2 shift, shifting at 7600. It would have had 9.50s at that boost level with just a converter swap. Crazy efficient setup.
That's incredible, nicely done. I have a Tick Stage 3 cam in mind for my 6000-8000 rpm 4.8 idea but it's a 223/227 114+3, now I'm wondering if I should go with more duration like yours.
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I definitely wouldn't use a camshaft that size for an 8000 RPM goal, even on a 4.8.
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Mama ported FAST. Nothing can touch it.
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Originally Posted by The Verz
Mama ported FAST. Nothing can touch it.
You mean MamO......
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