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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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I'm not sure if this is an isolated incident or not. But when I replaced my old custom 3" ory-pipe on my longtubes out with a QTP dual cutout ory-pipe... it eliminated 95% of my rasp. This all through a wide open borla.
If I'm not mistaken, the QTP ORY uses a nice merge collector (Flowmaster?) to bring the two pipes into one. My Kooks y-pipe, although it is catted, is basically just one pipe welded into the other without any type of merge collector. If you do some research, you'll find that people that have a y-pipe made with a merge collector will get rid of most of their rasp. I'm guessing it has something to do with bringing the two exhaust streams together as smoothly as possible...that's why x-pipes (at least I think) have little to no rasp.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
If you do some research, you'll find that people that have a y-pipe made with a merge collector will get rid of most of their rasp.
my experience has shown that not to be true. i had the jet hot y pipe, but i modified it with a real merge collector:
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even with the dual/dual, i had tons of rasp. it was so annoying. so i put an 18 inch bullet in, and there is no more rasp. but the exhaust is very quiet. i probably should have installed a 12 inch bullet instead of the 18.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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Welp, sounds like another thing that is up for debate. There are people out there that actually like the GMMG with an ORY, just like there are people that swear up and down their grippy aftermarket clutch drives "just like stock." Man...rasp with a dual/dual. And that's a quiet *** exhaust (I used to have one).
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Hugger
Not true at all. Only if your running it open.
Exactly, if you don't put the solid block off plate in to run all through the muffler you get varying amounts of rasp, just like with loudmouth and even GMMG. I doubt many people with the borla run all the exhaust through the muffler.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Hugger
Not true at all. Only if your running it open.
I agree as well. In fact, when you are running it open, doesn't it resemble a single exit exhaust with the gases escaping out the right side?

Nevertheless, a bullet in the I-pipe helps with sound absorbtion and rasp. If you add another one, it will absorb even more before the gases make it to the atmosphere. In fact, the longer the transition or string of bullets, the more sound waves it will absorb.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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After hearing this the price of all the way back true duals doesnt seem that much. 7XX for gmmg and 11XX for true duals all the way back and you dont have to buy a y pipe. I think I will be going with the duals all the way back.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
After hearing this the price of all the way back true duals doesnt seem that much. 7XX for gmmg and 11XX for true duals all the way back and you dont have to buy a y pipe. I think I will be going with the duals all the way back.
Yep, even though I already have a Kooks catted-y, I'll be doing true duals out the back in December. I figure I'll do it once, and do it right (hopefully).
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
If I'm not mistaken, the QTP ORY uses a nice merge collector (Flowmaster?) to bring the two pipes into one.
I've also found that to not be true as well. The y-pipe I had before my dual cutout QTP y-pipe was a cutom made 3" ORY with the same exact collector that QTP uses. It rasped like crazy.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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I also had a raspmobile, easiest cure is true duals, yes its loud but it does sound good.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by xaon
I've also found that to not be true as well. The y-pipe I had before my dual cutout QTP y-pipe was a cutom made 3" ORY with the same exact collector that QTP uses. It rasped like crazy.
Hmmmmmm...well, I guess I can stand corrected (or confused). I've read in a couple of places where people got rid of some rasp (not all) by going to a decent merge collector, but it doesn't sound like that is the answer. I'm wondering why an x-pipe (or H) doesn't have rasp, but a decent high flow merge for a y-pipe does.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike K.
I also had a raspmobile, easiest cure is true duals, yes its loud but it does sound good.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Exactly, if you don't put the solid block off plate in to run all through the muffler you get varying amounts of rasp, just like with loudmouth and even GMMG. I doubt many people with the borla run all the exhaust through the muffler.
Actually I do run the solid plate on the street with my Borla, pushing it all through the muffler. I open it for the track, dyno, or when I wanna be loud. I used to run it open all the time before the ORP and LT's. I really don't like the raspy sound with it wide open. Plus I live in CA (home of the smog *****). LT's, and obviously no cats, are illegal in CA... I don't need to draw any additional attention from police, it's just asking for an impound.

My point was that the Borla is a good way to have the best of both worlds with your LT/ORP set up... nice loud rumble with no rasp, or the all out open header rasp.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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Yeah, Im conviced any catback with an ory is gonna have some rasp. The quieter the catback less obnoxious and annoying the rasp is.

I think the rasp has something to do with the ypipe being unequal in length. This causes exhaust pulses to collide instead of alternating one after the other when going through the ycollector.
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 12:46 AM
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I was going to order GMMG for my car and while at the shop I decided on an electric cut-out instead. I like the sound better and can get it a bit quieter with the push of a button. A cut-out with headers and ORYP is deeper than any cat-back through a y-pipe I've ever heard in person or online. There is also a lot LESS rasp.
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