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how do 01-02 ls1's pass emmissions since they dont have a.i.r. and egr?

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Old 12-25-2004, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jrp
hell, i got rid of air, egr, pcv, and my a/c. makes working in the engine bay alot easier


- D_Run: what type of emissions do you have in sweden?
Do you just have your crankcase venting to the atmosphere?

I'm still liking my catch can setup...A LOT. At my last oil change, I had about a half cup of crap in there. I need to look in my manifold with a flashlight to see how it is doin in there...

Gotta keep my A/C though...I hardly use it, but there are some days in Florida when it is even too much for me. That and the g/f would prolly never ride in my car again.
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Originally Posted by glennster
Other way around.
No, hes right. More valve overlap=more inert gas is retained in the cyinder=no need for EGR.
Old 12-25-2004, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by psykoTa
No, hes right. More valve overlap=more inert gas is retained in the cyinder=no need for EGR.
More overlap means there is MORE unburnt gasses leaving teh combustion chamber. During the overlpa period both intake and exhaust valves are open at the same time. This allows for un burnt fuel to enter the exhaust system.
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Originally Posted by HumpinSS
More overlap means there is MORE unburnt gasses leaving teh combustion chamber. During the overlpa period both intake and exhaust valves are open at the same time. This allows for un burnt fuel to enter the exhaust system.
When the intake and exhaust open up at the same time, you have fresh air and fuel coming in, and burnt gases leaving. Because fresh air/fuel are coming in at the same tiime, it ends up trapping some of the already burnt gases. The burnt gases then stay in the cylinder again. This is how EGR works, it cycles burnt gases back into the cumbustion chamber to cool the combustion process down. This iin turn prevents NOX, which is why the EGR is considered an emissions device. When you remove the EGR, you increase the temp inside the cylinder because the burnt gases (inert gas) have a cooling affect. When that cooling affect is gone, you can can get pinging.

More overlap=more burnt gas being retained in the cylinder, versus, say, no overlap, intake closed, exhaust open, most ALL the burnt gas will be pushed out rather than being mixed.

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straight from GM:

EGR ELIMINATED
Application of the LQ4 cam produced a valuable side benefit: elimination of the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) system. The new cam creates more valve overlap, or periods when both intake and exhaust valves are partially open at the same time. Increased overlap allows the LS1 to meet National Low Emissions Vehicle (NLEV) certification without EGR. Removal of EGR reduces engine plumbing and potential leak sources
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i think that solves the argument
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Originally Posted by LiquidFire350
i think that solves the argument
I was thinking it was a discussion
Old 12-26-2004, 05:56 PM
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what kind of injectors do i have on my 02? jw.. seen the injector comment in a post on 1st page
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Originally Posted by ZMC_Racing
what kind of injectors do i have on my 02? jw.. seen the injector comment in a post on 1st page

98: 28.6 #
99-00: 26.8 #
01+: 28.8 #
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Originally Posted by jrp
straight from GM:

EGR ELIMINATED
Application of the LQ4 cam produced a valuable side benefit: elimination of the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) system. The new cam creates more valve overlap, or periods when both intake and exhaust valves are partially open at the same time. Increased overlap allows the LS1 to meet National Low Emissions Vehicle (NLEV) certification without EGR. Removal of EGR reduces engine plumbing and potential leak sources
Soo to avoid pinging you shouldn't remove the EGR-system.
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reduces PLUMBING, not pinging
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so if i order a set of QTP LT's race style (as in no egr or air fittings) will it still pass smog???
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Originally Posted by VaNDaL*SS*
so if i order a set of QTP LT's race style (as in no egr or air fittings) will it still pass smog???
you dont have egr. !air should pass the sniffer and OBDII (tuned), but will fail the visual.
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god damn ******* visual, always bites u in the ***, but might as well get it with non if im going to have LT's anyways cuz they would fail in itself, so **** it get the race style cuz id fail anyways if they look under the car.
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Same way I was thinking!

Originally Posted by VaNDaL*SS*
god damn ******* visual, always bites u in the ***, but might as well get it with non if im going to have LT's anyways cuz they would fail in itself, so **** it get the race style cuz id fail anyways if they look under the car.
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Originally Posted by Phoenix57
reduces PLUMBING, not pinging



Originally Posted by VaNDaL*SS*
so if i order a set of QTP LT's race style (as in no egr or air fittings) will it still pass smog???
As long as there are no dash lights or codes coming up then yes you should pass as long as they don't look under the car or even know what they're looking for.
I just removed all my EGR/AIR stuff on Monday and I am a little nervous about inspection (not due until January 2006) but I will have all my codes deleted and hopefully some sort of fake cats under there by then so hopefully they won't notice too much.
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im glad we don't have that. cars in Louisiana can fog up the road with smoke and still pass in most areas(except BR and NO as far as i know)




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