Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:
View Poll Results: Long tubes for an '02 SS
Hooker
1
1.92%
Pace Setters
18
34.62%
Kooks
19
36.54%
other
14
26.92%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

Headers...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 30, 2005 | 09:33 PM
  #1  
1LE LS1's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
Default Headers...

for an '02 SS with a few bolt ons and will be gettin cammed in a few months

which long tube headers??? did wanna spend over a thousand on the headers,y-pipe, and installation accessories...(NO CATS)

-Pace Setters
-Hookers(coated)
-Kooks
-other

i want a pretty decent header that fit good, looks good, and sounds good

my main concern is fit and leaks
looks are not my main objective but i do want them to tuck up somewhat nicely to give me some ground clearence

thanks
Old May 30, 2005 | 09:45 PM
  #2  
SSrookiekid's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 121
Likes: 0
Default

Hey man... I got an 02 SS too and i just saved up for my headers that im gonna get next week. I decided to go with the QTP Long Tube Head's. You can goto their site at Quicktimeperformance.com. I think they got one of the best quality made headers today. With the stainless steel you can't go wrong... you don't want none of this coated **** so if i were you i'd save up and buy the QTP... run yea $800-1k a pot. Mine are the air fittings for $800. They fit good so i hear, also look good onced polished... but looks arent what you want with heads. Your looking for quality, #1 priority... over time coated headers rust around the fittings so save up man...

And you'll never go wrong with QTP/Kooks... Read up on JRP Exhaust Guide... you'll learn alot man!

Also listen to what these guys gotta say... they know what there talking about.
Old May 30, 2005 | 10:32 PM
  #3  
Lithium's Avatar
SSU's Drunk Typing Whore
iTrader: (47)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,608
Likes: 0
Default

Pacesetters
Old May 31, 2005 | 02:22 PM
  #4  
silver02Z's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 328
Likes: 0
From: Shawnee, OK
Default

Pacesetter for the $$. Plus they were so easy to install that I laughed when they both slid in 3 minutes...

Last edited by silver02Z; May 31, 2005 at 08:24 PM.
Old May 31, 2005 | 02:30 PM
  #5  
JarredWS6's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
From: DFW
Default

I voted for the pacesetters. I picked up a set and the fitment was perfect. Save the money and put it toward your cam.
Old May 31, 2005 | 02:36 PM
  #6  
blkZ28spt's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,524
Likes: 1
From: The South
Default

What are you asking?

Common knowledge, easy to find searching says pacestters are best bang for the buck while kooks/QTP's are THE best. Pick based how much you are willing to pay (to an extent you get what you pay for) and whether or not you want stainless steel.
Old May 31, 2005 | 03:32 PM
  #7  
Durien's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,400
Likes: 0
From: NY,CT & MA
Default

QTP all the way!
Old May 31, 2005 | 03:47 PM
  #8  
NviouSS's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 845
Likes: 0
From: Olathe, KS
Default

Q T P
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

10 Reasons Daily Driving a Swap Project SUCKS! (& 1 Reason to Do It Anyway)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-2

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-9

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
Old May 31, 2005 | 07:06 PM
  #9  
skywalkrNCSU's Avatar
SSU, come over and relax
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 540
Likes: 0
From: Cary, NC
Default



search
Old May 31, 2005 | 09:12 PM
  #10  
ss rally red's Avatar
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,298
Likes: 0
From: Destin FL
Default

I've had the Pacesetters since June of 03 with no problems,coated, my numbers arein sig.
Old May 31, 2005 | 09:30 PM
  #11  
Full-Force's Avatar
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,070
Likes: 5
From: Upstate of SC
Default

hands down, pacesetters
375 coated, cant beat the fit, 3/8 flange, etc
Old May 31, 2005 | 09:42 PM
  #12  
SSrookiekid's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 121
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Full-Force
hands down, pacesetters
375 coated, cant beat the fit, 3/8 flange, etc
All you guy's that own Pacesetter's, of course your gonna tell him to get them too. But your really miss leading him when in fact your waisting your money on something that will rust in 2-3years. Sure it takes time to rust but they eventually will... My best advice to you man is save up your money. Don't get impatient and go blow $400 when you'll want to be buying stainless 3 years later like everyone else. And have to blow another $800... it just doesnt make since man. Im telling you, knock some sense in , save up the money man and get good quality, your not paying mainly towards performance... ask anyone. Your paying for the quality. $400 isn't to reassuring to me man...
Old May 31, 2005 | 09:45 PM
  #13  
blkZ28spt's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,524
Likes: 1
From: The South
Default

Originally Posted by SSrookiekid
All you guy's that own Pacesetter's, of course your gonna tell him to get them too. But your really miss leading him when in fact your waisting your money on something that will rust in 2-3years. Sure it takes time to rust but they eventually will... My best advice to you man is save up your money. Don't get impatient and go blow $400 when you'll want to be buying stainless 3 years later like everyone else. And have to blow another $800... it just doesnt make since man. Im telling you, knock some sense in , save up the money man and get good quality, your not paying mainly towards performance... ask anyone. Your paying for the quality. $400 isn't to reassuring to me man...
Many people run coated mild steel, surface rust and all. It's not like it's going to rust through. I'd say stainless steel is less common based on what I see.
Fact is you can buy pacesetters twice vs stainless steel once, if you have to. I recommend pacesetters for budget minded individuals, and I run Jet-Hots that were on sale for $515 (GP actually). If pacesetters were out at the time (esp for $375) I would have been SOO happy.

I would either get pacesetters or QTP/kooks.
Old May 31, 2005 | 09:48 PM
  #14  
baddogz28's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,620
Likes: 0
From: Austin, TX by way of Chicago, IL
Default

I'll be the lone wolf voting for the hookers. Nice quality, nice price.
Old May 31, 2005 | 10:20 PM
  #15  
Full-Force's Avatar
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,070
Likes: 5
From: Upstate of SC
Default

Other than cosmetics what is rust gonna hurt? I have yet to see a set of coated headers all the way up the tubes in the engine bay, so the cosmetic part doesnt matter much to me.

I work on alot of F bodies and have seen flowtech, pacesetter, hooker, and jet hot. I will tell you one thing for sure. Either buy the pacesetters or buy stainless. Why? Because the pacesetter is atleast as good of quality, and fit as the jet hots and hookers.

So I m just trying to give advice on products that have been in my own 2 hands, not just based on what I have read. Just trying to help.

The car I just got done with had flowtechs and the flanges were 1/4" so that would be enough for me to pass on. The flanges were wavy from the bolts pulling on the flange.

Even if a header rust, you wont be buying a new set of headers on the count of it. Not me anyway.
Old May 31, 2005 | 10:22 PM
  #16  
SSrookiekid's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 121
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
I would either get pacesetters or QTP/kooks.
I said that... get QTP. QTP & Kooks is like... boxers or briefs? give me a break man but ****... why would you want to buy pacesetters twice? LOL its not worth it man... just be smart and save up... I'LL STATE THIS RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.

" IM 17 YEARS OLD AND IM BUYING A PAIR OF QTP LT'S, I WORK AS A P.O.S. CASHIER AT A SUPERMARKETS MAKIN $6.50 AN HOUR... I GET $40-70 THE USUAL PAY CHECKS... rarely $100, now no one can sit here and complain about not having enough money as an excuse and going out to buy pacesetters. I work my *** off for months and months just to save up for barely enough and i have to get the rest as a 18th birthday gift...

**** wait till its your b-day, christmas, Hanukkah, Easter... **** get the F***in money on Thanksgiving for all i care... but if i could take the time to save up for these dam things... anyone can.

I think my point is BOLD.

Make that a famous Quote.
Old May 31, 2005 | 11:25 PM
  #17  
01TAFlyer's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 356
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Full-Force
Other than cosmetics what is rust gonna hurt? I have yet to see a set of coated headers all the way up the tubes in the engine bay, so the cosmetic part doesnt matter much to me.
If the rust got bad enough to make any kind of hole. Then anything before the o2 sensor would be an exhaust leak and completely throw off your o2 volts and thus a/f. So not all cosmetic, hypothetically at least.
Old May 31, 2005 | 11:40 PM
  #18  
Red99TransAm's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Default

SSRookiekid is right. I posted a while ago about getting either stainless steel or ceramic coated headers, and after reading what everyone said and weighing everything out, I realized that the smart thing to do was go with stainless steel, so my vote is for the KOOKS I actually ordered mine today, and I am happy I actually went and spent the extra $$$$ to get some excellent quality headers so I can be worry free about having rust occur. Also, if you look at alot of the threads on here about headers, read the ones about the pacesetters. They seem to be hit or miss with them and the quality, so spend the extra $$$$ and dont worry about having to do your own fabricating to them or rusting and replacing them. I live in FL and with all the rain we have down here, it became a no brainer for me. When it comes to my car, I am not cheap and have no problem spendng extra money to take care of it. You've heard the old saying, "You get what you pay for". Well that rings true especially when it comes to something like headers. Your car will thank you. Good luck with your decision. I trust you will make the right one

Last edited by Red99TransAm; May 31, 2005 at 11:47 PM.
Old May 31, 2005 | 11:48 PM
  #19  
glennhl's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 749
Likes: 0
From: Chandler, Arizona
Default

I like my Stainlessworks. Very nice quality headers. Plus if you go with CATS, they use Random Techs which I think are the best.
Old Jun 1, 2005 | 04:48 AM
  #20  
DD966's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 701
Likes: 1
From: Connecticut
Default

Originally Posted by glennhl
I like my Stainlessworks. Very nice quality headers. Plus if you go with CATS, they use Random Techs which I think are the best.
I agree! If they were out a few years ago (when I got my SLPs) I would have defintely bought them. You simply won't find a better set in the aftermarket, no contest.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:18 AM.

story-0
10 Reasons Daily Driving a Swap Project SUCKS! (& 1 Reason to Do It Anyway)

Slideshow: 10 reasons daily-driving a swap project might not be for you. Or is it?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-17 09:39:05


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 14:55:56


VIEW MORE
story-2
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-18 10:26:23


VIEW MORE
story-3
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-4
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-5
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-6
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-7
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE