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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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Question 2.5" or 3" Y-pipe with LTs?

I've read and searched ad nauseam and can't find the answer I'm looking for. I'll be doing LTs soon and will be building a custom pipe to tuck nice since I'm lowered. Duals are out because I'd want to run them out the back and that exceeds the budget for this so I plan to keep the B&B. I see that a lot of people run 3" Y's merged and run through a single 3" catback. It SEEMS that two 2.5" Y's merged into a 3" catback would make better use of the single 3" I-pipe. But what does the motor really need?

Here's what I'm thinking:

1) reduce at the header collector to 2.5", run 2.5 pipes through 2.5" Random tech hi-flows, merge into a 2.5x3" collector.

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2) 3" Y, 3" cats, merge into 3x4" collector and reduce to 3" at the outlet


I want good flow and clearance and don't want to restrict the motor when it's time to run a cam in the future. Does anyone have any data that supports the use of 3" over 2.5" when merging into a single 3" pipe?

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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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Read this thread: https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/394839-how-much-power-can-2-5-ypipe-handle.html. To me the idea of going from 3'' collectors to 2.5" Y to a 3" I pipe seems like a better way of managing flow than to squeeze dual 3" down to a single 3" at the I pipe.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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get the 3 inch
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Thanks Rev, yeah I ran across that one in my searches, good stuff! I was just hoping for more "expert" data that, for instance, backs up the claim that 3" piping isn't needed until 500PH, etc... The only thing I can find here or on the web is info on sizing the primares.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by weestro
Thanks Rev, yeah I ran across that one in my searches, good stuff! I was just hoping for more "expert" data that, for instance, backs up the claim that 3" piping isn't needed until 500PH, etc... The only thing I can find here or on the web is info on sizing the primares.
I think that you're thinking of 3" true duals with the whole 500hp thing. A 3" y-pipe and catback should be just fine on a stock motor.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by weestro
Thanks Rev, yeah I ran across that one in my searches, good stuff! I was just hoping for more "expert" data that, for instance, backs up the claim that 3" piping isn't needed until 500PH, etc... The only thing I can find here or on the web is info on sizing the primares.
Isn't there a link in one of the posts on that thread to some "expert" type theory on that kind of thing?
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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There was one from an NSX site that makes this statement:

Unfortunately, we know of no accurate way to calculate optimal exhaust pipe diameter. This is mainly due to the random nature of an exhaust system -- things like bends or kinks in the piping, temperature fluctuations, differences in muffler design, and the lot, make selecting a pipe diameter little more than a guessing game. For engines making 250 to 350 horsepower, the generally accepted pipe diameter is 3 to 3 ½ inches. Over that amount, you'd be best off going to 4 inches. If you have an engine making over 400 to 500 horsepower, you'd better be happy capping off the fun with a 4 inch exhaust.
I don't know about the validity of this statement but if it's true I'm hosed, 4" will never happen.
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Originally Posted by weestro
There was one from an NSX site that makes this statement:



I don't know about the validity of this statement but if it's true I'm hosed, 4" will never happen.
If this is true than you really shouldn't go anywhere past stock with a 3" exhaust. I don't think this is true unless your exhaust is bent and wound of like a coil spring.

I'm glad I went for the 3" TD's .
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I'm lowered and went 2.5" headers ( Stainless Works makes them ) to a 2.5" y-pipe to a 3.5" exhaust. No scraping or banging over the rear.
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Nice numbers Viper! I guess the pipes flow plenty for your cam...
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