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Old 02-12-2006, 11:19 PM
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what is the real hp gain and which is the best?
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all about the same now, you can pick up about 10 rwhp up top
they are worth it when doing a cam.
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i got 9rwhp
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i got 9rwhp
Not bad being uncammed
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If search is working use it...so much great info out there about this
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Originally Posted by Lithium
If search is working use it...so much great info out there about this
yep i think this is the 2nd or 3rd similar post to this this week. i think i'm going to get ASP myself.
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March makes a good one too for half the price.
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Its not really worth it if you have an auto because you have to put an alternator overdrive pulley on and I would think that would significantly decrease the HP increase you might see
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Its not really worth it if you have an auto because you have to put an alternator overdrive pulley on and I would think that would significantly decrease the HP increase you might see
You actually have to do that?
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Originally Posted by Luna
Its not really worth it if you have an auto because you have to put an alternator overdrive pulley on and I would think that would significantly decrease the HP increase you might see
Explain-e-ate this one to me!

Even with the alternator overdrive, have you ever actually spun over the alternator pulley? You can almost look at it and make it move if you stare hard enough!

I've never heard of an OD alternator pulley being needed with an auto. It's like what i said in the other thread, our cars are designed to put out enough juice at IDLE to run the car forever. As long as you aren't using more than 75% of the output to run the car, you SHOULD be able to idle forever with even an underdrive pulley. Once you start moving around, you have plenty of juice.
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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
March makes a good one too for half the price.
i've heard some bad things from users on the board about the march UD pulleys. can't think of what the comments were off the top of my head.
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I have the ASP version with no problems or charging issues. I installed an LS6 intake and crank pulley at the same time and there was a definite SOP increase.
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Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
As long as you aren't using more than 75% of the output to run the car, you SHOULD be able to idle forever with even an underdrive pulley.
I don't know if it's needed or not. But that statement isn't true. The voltage an electrical generator puts out depends on the speed. Which means at a low enough speed the alternator won't be over 12v despite the voltage regulator.
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Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
Explain-e-ate this one to me!

Even with the alternator overdrive, have you ever actually spun over the alternator pulley? You can almost look at it and make it move if you stare hard enough!

I've never heard of an OD alternator pulley being needed with an auto. It's like what i said in the other thread, our cars are designed to put out enough juice at IDLE to run the car forever. As long as you aren't using more than 75% of the output to run the car, you SHOULD be able to idle forever with even an underdrive pulley. Once you start moving around, you have plenty of juice.
I was just going by what ASP recommends but upon a second read I guess its not necessary

"Stock Alternator Pulley - Most commonly used. Suitable for most applications.

Overdrive Alternator Pulley - Recommended for automatic cars to help bring alternator speeds back to near stock levels without sacrificing too much horsepower. Extremely important for vehicles with high accessory drag such as cars with lots of stereo modifications.

Underdrive Alternator Pulley - Recommended mainly for track use. Not recommended for daily street use due to low alternator charging."


Thats straight from Thunder Racing
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I have a 25% underdrive pulley on a 6 speed. If the rpm is lower than 1,800 and you're driving through a parking around a curve, the power steering is dead. You have to push in the clutch and blip the throttle. If you have an A4 car you won't be able to clutch/gas.

You can feel some horsepower added for sure, but the poor power steering is the most obvious PITA.
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i must be wigged out because i got the slp 25% underdrive and was told not to touch my altenator or belt tensioner. i can feel any difference on take off or in a race (obviously) but i can feel a difference when i fall out to pass someone and punch it (from about 50mph).

im deffinately sold on it and if i bought another fbody tomorrow, i'd buy a pulley for it also.

and i have an A4
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i didnt bother getting one.
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Underdrive pulley will pick up a tenth in the quarter that is where it matters!
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Originally Posted by 99camarosupersport
i've heard some bad things from users on the board about the march UD pulleys. can't think of what the comments were off the top of my head.
The negative info I heard about March (in reading threads over the past month) was the lead time in getting one. Nothing was said negatively about performance or quality.
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Originally Posted by RICEETER
i must be wigged out because i got the slp 25% underdrive and was told not to touch my altenator or belt tensioner. i can feel any difference on take off or in a race (obviously) but i can feel a difference when i fall out to pass someone and punch it (from about 50mph).

im deffinately sold on it and if i bought another fbody tomorrow, i'd buy a pulley for it also.

and i have an A4
Did you have to buy an overdrive alternator pulley?

Do you lose power steering as Firehawk mentioned; in an A4?
I have a 25% underdrive pulley on a 6 speed. If the rpm is lower than 1,800 and you're driving through a parking around a curve, the power steering is dead. You have to push in the clutch and blip the throttle. If you have an A4 car you won't be able to clutch/gas.



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