Looked at all sponser sites cant find them need some advice.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BLUE-00'-DEMON:
<strong>Looked at all sponser sites cant find them need some advice.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We have several sets in stock at this time. Give me a call. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

 

Yes definitely give Paul a call! I got my Grotts from TR and they'll certainly take good care of ya' <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

 

Only 1 set left I bought the other.
Better hurry and call Paul.

 

How much grotts???

 

I mean how much are grotts???

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I mean how much are grotts??? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">~$800 minus the nasty Grott Y-pipe.

<small>[ June 30, 2002, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: Fulton 1 ]</small>

 

800

 

Be careful buying from paul. If he sends you faulty parts and you ask for a refund, you'll be paying shipping both ways and 20%. Ask me how I know <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slart:
<strong>Be careful buying from paul. If he sends you faulty parts and you ask for a refund, you'll be paying shipping both ways and 20%. Ask me how I know <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks Steve Sadler. You wanna bring this into a public forum then lets do it. Why don't you explain to everyone about these faulty parts that we sent you. You wanted to send back a faulty CNC ported TB because it had CNC marks on it. You said it was a piece of junk not worthy of your time or your car. Lets see why did you want to return the Whisper Lid?? Oh yeah it was made of plastic. In your own words it was again another pile of plastic $hit. Which lids aren't plastic? Yeah those are very faulty parts.
I did offer you 100% store credit on the parts. I'm really out to screw you huh. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Paul

 

lol, how do you know???
just kidding

So without the Y-pipe it comes to about $700??? Or do you have to get the Y pipe???

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Lets see why did you want to return the Whisper Lid?? Oh yeah it was made of plastic. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What!? No sheet metal intake!? LOL <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Paul @ Thunder:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slart:
<strong>Be careful buying from paul. If he sends you faulty parts and you ask for a refund, you'll be paying shipping both ways and 20%. Ask me how I know <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks Steve Sadler. You wanna bring this into a public forum then lets do it. Why don't you explain to everyone about these faulty parts that we sent you. You wanted to send back a faulty CNC ported TB because it had CNC marks on it. You said it was a piece of junk not worthy of your time or your car. Lets see why did you want to return the Whisper Lid?? Oh yeah it was made of plastic. In your own words it was again another pile of plastic $hit. Which lids aren't plastic? Yeah those are very faulty parts.
I did offer you 100% store credit on the parts. I'm really out to screw you huh. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Paul</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have dealt with Paul, Geoff and Jason on the phone many times and have never had one single complaint about them. They have always sold quality parts and are excellent guys to deal with. Just my .02

 

Hey Paul, can I get one of those Thunder Racing Titanium airbox lids with your autograph? Pleeease?

Okay, how about one carved from wood?

<img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>Hey Paul, can I get one of those Thunder Racing Titanium airbox lids with your autograph? Pleeease?

Okay, how about one carved from wood?

<img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Great Tony please don't give Geoff any ideas. He's already been toying with a wood grain airbox lid. <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

Paul

<small>[ July 01, 2002, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: Paul @ Thunder ]</small>

 

When that 2-seater LS1 powered Caddy comes out, that woodgrain airbox might be a big seller!

BTW, if you have any copper Grots in stock, I'll buy them!

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2002 Trans Am:
<strong>
So without the Y-pipe it comes to about $700??? Or do you have to get the Y pipe???</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have 1 set of 98-99 headers in stock now. They are $799 without a Y-pipe.

Paul

 

haha wood grain lids has to be the funnest thing i have heard in a long time.

BTW nineball i heard you have pics of cutting out the section on your hood where the latch attaches so it could get more air to the airbox. i wanna do this but dont know how much i can safely cut, so can you please email me those pics.

 

Paul,

First, the unit is CNCed but it wasn't even centered on the jig before you began, so the whole you "machined" (if you dare call it that) is not centered around the hole in the throttle body.

Second, in the automotive world CNC means that it's top quality (yeah, I know what it stands for. Dont try and school me, or I'll school you twice as hard). Instead you guys use CNC to reduce manufacturing costs, which is fine. What you sent me has maybe 15 minutes of manufacturing time, which is worth $20 at a machine shop which includes a good profit margin for the shop. Yet you're charging $150 for it. When you say CNC and charge $150, you can expect a top quality product.

Third, the bump stop was clearly cut with a die grinder, not a CNC.

Fourth, the throttle body I receive has dings on it that make the throttle bore non round.

Fifth, the person who milled the throttle blade made an error and milled the screws deeper than the rest. The screws should be the thickest part, not the thinnest.

Sixth, my throttle body had ALUMINUM FILINGS in it (on the outside of the bearing, where the throttle position sensor mounts).

It would take me longer to fix your throttle body than to do my own, except some of the machining mistakes you made can't be fixed at all!

As far as the lid goes, it's a backform vacuumed piece of plastic that can't have cost more than $3 to produce.

You sell an unsatisfactory quality product and you insist on a 20% restocking fee. Why? That 20% guarentees that you make a profit regardless of whether the customer gets what he wants.

20% of $130 for the lid is rediculous. It's still 5 times more than it cost to make.

And as far as posting my name publically on this list, that's pretty stupid. I dont particularly care, but if I did you'd out find my attorney would make your life hell.

Your company is in the business of bilking people. It's bad enough that you want 20% to take back faulty and unsatisfactory parts, but a worse trajedy is the poor customer who's stupid enough to put up with it.

Steve

<small>[ July 02, 2002, 12:47 AM: Message edited by: Slart ]</small>

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slart:
<strong>Paul,

First, the unit is CNCed but it wasn't even centered on the jig before you began, so the whole you "machined" (if you dare call it that) is not centered around the hole in the throttle body.

Second, in the automotive world CNC means that it's top quality (yeah, I know what it stands for. Dont try and school me, or I'll school you twice as hard). Instead you guys use CNC to reduce manufacturing costs, which is fine. What you sent me has maybe 15 minutes of manufacturing time, which is worth $20 at a machine shop which includes a good profit margin for the shop. Yet you're charging $150 for it. When you say CNC and charge $150, you can expect a top quality product.

Third, the bump stop was clearly cut with a die grinder, not a CNC.

Fourth, the throttle body I receive has dings on it that make the throttle bore non round.

Fifth, the person who milled the throttle blade made an error and milled the screws deeper than the rest. The screws should be the thickest part, not the thinnest.

Sixth, my throttle body had ALUMINUM FILINGS in it (on the outside of the bearing, where the throttle position sensor mounts).

It would take me longer to fix your throttle body than to do my own, except some of the machining mistakes you made can't be fixed at all!

As far as the lid goes, it's a backform vacuumed piece of plastic that can't have cost more than $3 to produce.

You sell an unsatisfactory quality product and you insist on a 20% restocking fee. Why? That 20% guarentees that you make a profit regardless of whether the customer gets what he wants.

20% of $130 for the lid is rediculous. It's still 5 times more than it cost to make.

And as far as posting my name publically on this list, that's pretty stupid. I dont particularly care, but if I did you'd out find my attorney would make your life hell.

Your company is in the business of bilking people. It's bad enough that you want 20% to take back faulty and unsatisfactory parts, but a worse trajedy is the poor customer who's stupid enough to put up with it.

Steve</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Did anyone hear something?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Shut up dumass.