Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed??
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? verbs, I've taken off the lower air dam during summer ( even Cleveland hits 95+ ) and it did help. But I highly doubt you'll ever see 175-180 in 100 temps, except during the first 5 minutes of a cold start.
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Viper:
<strong>verbs, I've taken off the lower air dam during summer ( even Cleveland hits 95+ ) and it did help. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wonder how that affects performance and the ram air effect...hmmmmm
<strong>verbs, I've taken off the lower air dam during summer ( even Cleveland hits 95+ ) and it did help. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wonder how that affects performance and the ram air effect...hmmmmm
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Viper:
<strong>verbs, I've taken off the lower air dam during summer.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I did the same thing. It's been too damn hot over here in California the last few weeks so off it went. Once the temps are cooler I'll put it back on. The car is running a lot cooler though.
<strong>verbs, I've taken off the lower air dam during summer.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I did the same thing. It's been too damn hot over here in California the last few weeks so off it went. Once the temps are cooler I'll put it back on. The car is running a lot cooler though.
Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Viper:
<strong>verbs, I've taken off the lower air dam during summer... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You mean lower FTRAir dam... right ? Not the cars air dam. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong>verbs, I've taken off the lower air dam during summer... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You mean lower FTRAir dam... right ? Not the cars air dam. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? Just for comparisons sake. I run FRA, but not FTRA, a 180 degree thermostat, and 184 degree fan temp. Today it was pretty damn hot (mid 90's with sick humidity) and in traffic with A/C on my car reached a hottest temp of 204 degrees.
Verbs, do you ever check Air inlet temperature? I do, and I obcess over it. I was cringing one day in TERRIBLE interstate traffic/ mid 90 degree/ stupid humidity with a 140 degree Air inlet temperature, and 208 degree motor temp.
I imagine if I monitored my tranny temp I wouldnt even want to drive my car LOL! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Verbs, do you ever check Air inlet temperature? I do, and I obcess over it. I was cringing one day in TERRIBLE interstate traffic/ mid 90 degree/ stupid humidity with a 140 degree Air inlet temperature, and 208 degree motor temp.
I imagine if I monitored my tranny temp I wouldnt even want to drive my car LOL! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? It was 110 outside when I was driving yesterday afternoon, and the temps of my car were as low as 212 on the highway and a shade over 220 degrees in rush hour city traffic.
I do have the 160 degree T-stat, and used my hypertech to turn my fans on sooner as well....but I still run really hot. I also added water wetter to my radiator.
Any suggestions??
<small>[ July 22, 2002, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: verbs ]</small>
I do have the 160 degree T-stat, and used my hypertech to turn my fans on sooner as well....but I still run really hot. I also added water wetter to my radiator.
Any suggestions??
<small>[ July 22, 2002, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: verbs ]</small>
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? I wouldn't consider 220 in rush hour traffic, on a 110 day, to be overheating. 220 ain't bad at all in fact. I've found that the FTRA makes me run 5-10 degrees hotter but 220 is nothing to be worrying about.
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Dope:
<strong>I wouldn't consider 220 in rush hour traffic, on a 110 day, to be overheating. 220 ain't bad at all in fact. I've found that the FTRA makes me run 5-10 degrees hotter but 220 is nothing to be worrying about.
Dope</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I got as hot as 224 degrees, which to me is getting too close for comfort. I would have thought that using the 160 T-stat, water wetter, and hypertech would have helped counteract the effects of the FTRA. Maybe it's just me. I'd ultimately like to be running at 175-180 degrees.
<strong>I wouldn't consider 220 in rush hour traffic, on a 110 day, to be overheating. 220 ain't bad at all in fact. I've found that the FTRA makes me run 5-10 degrees hotter but 220 is nothing to be worrying about.
Dope</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I got as hot as 224 degrees, which to me is getting too close for comfort. I would have thought that using the 160 T-stat, water wetter, and hypertech would have helped counteract the effects of the FTRA. Maybe it's just me. I'd ultimately like to be running at 175-180 degrees.
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? A freind of mine has a 2000 SS that hit 238 with the FTRA installed. Out it came and the car never went over 210 again. IMO, the FTRA is only worth it in cooler climates.
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? I have a sort of related question.
I cut the bottom of my air box out as to let the
air "ram" up it through the bottom as well as
the hood scoops.
Is having both the air inlets counter productive?
Does anyone have proof, not just opinions???
all opinions are welcome ..though.
I was thinking of blocking the bottom back off.
I haven't really seen any gain at the track at all
and the only difference with the kit is the metal
that runs up to the box blocking the radiator???
thanks..
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I cut the bottom of my air box out as to let the
air "ram" up it through the bottom as well as
the hood scoops.
Is having both the air inlets counter productive?
Does anyone have proof, not just opinions???
all opinions are welcome ..though.
I was thinking of blocking the bottom back off.
I haven't really seen any gain at the track at all
and the only difference with the kit is the metal
that runs up to the box blocking the radiator???
thanks..
<img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />
Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? I plan on getting FTRA. But I also plan on getting fan switch too. Its bloody hot over here and sitting in bumper to bumper traffic ain't great on the engine. I need a new mod..its been to long since Ive done something to the car..and FTRA is next! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? Hey Verbs,
Just do what I do, work graveyards, here in AZ, the weather sucks for the cooling system.
When I drive in the day, my car does get hot due to the FTRA. It's monsoon time right now so just take it off, I had to block it off so my filter doesn't get too trashed.
STEVE
Just do what I do, work graveyards, here in AZ, the weather sucks for the cooling system.
When I drive in the day, my car does get hot due to the FTRA. It's monsoon time right now so just take it off, I had to block it off so my filter doesn't get too trashed.
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> do have the 160 degree T-stat, and used my hypertech to turn my fans on sooner as well....but I still run really hot. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Correct me if I'm mistaken but doesn't the HPP3 only activate the low speed fan setting? If that is the case, check out a manual switch setup that will also activate the high speed fan setting (like SLP). Since you already have the low speed covered, your best bet would probably be to get the necessary hardware from Radio Shack and wire up the high speed only. The fans definitely move a TON more air at the high speed setting.
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mike Hoffpauir:
<strong>Verbs, do you ever check Air inlet temperature? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The day I was in the 220's driving in the city my inlet temp was between 109-111 degrees. Which was the temperature outside. So I was not pulling in engine air IMO.
<strong>Verbs, do you ever check Air inlet temperature? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The day I was in the 220's driving in the city my inlet temp was between 109-111 degrees. Which was the temperature outside. So I was not pulling in engine air IMO.
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by chuckhammer:
<strong>[QUOTE] Since you already have the low speed covered, your best bet would probably be to get the necessary hardware from Radio Shack and wire up the high speed only. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll have to try that. What parts do I need and how do I assemble it?
<strong>[QUOTE] Since you already have the low speed covered, your best bet would probably be to get the necessary hardware from Radio Shack and wire up the high speed only. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll have to try that. What parts do I need and how do I assemble it?
Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? Keep in mind that the factory programming doesn't even TURN ON the 2nd fan until 22x degrees. This is not considered overheating by any means! However, as mentioned, the lower plate can be removed if you hit some wicked heat wave and added back later when things cool down.
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? i dont really have this problem so i cant really help..however if it does bother you that much get rid of the crappy stock radiator and replce it with a becool radiator and id bet a 20* drop in operating temperature when mated with a 160 or 180 thermo
or you could invest in an SLP fan switch..i dont know what the hypertech does but i know if i flip the fans on high i can pretty much keep the temp at whatever temp i want
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or you could invest in an SLP fan switch..i dont know what the hypertech does but i know if i flip the fans on high i can pretty much keep the temp at whatever temp i want
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Re: Anyone else overheating with FTRA installed?? also when you hooked up your fan switch for the high speed fans, you could set it so once the switch was turned on and you hit the brakes it would cut the fans on so that it will only be running the fans when you are on the brakes.