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Old 03-29-2006, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Iron Sights
The crank pulley is the one you want to change; some guys go with a smaller alternator pulley in addition, but it is easy to turn in the first place (most of the gains come from the smaller crank pulley, anyway).
The smaller alternator pulley is actually an overdrive pulley. It is used to up the alternator RPMs when the underdrive crank pully slowed the alternator down too much. And while the alternator is easy to turn by hand with the belt off, its easily the accessory that takes the most power to turn, once its under load. Assuming of course the a/c is not on.
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All good information! Thanks guys!
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
The smaller alternator pulley is actually an overdrive pulley. It is used to up the alternator RPMs when the underdrive crank pully slowed the alternator down too much. And while the alternator is easy to turn by hand with the belt off, its easily the accessory that takes the most power to turn, once its under load. Assuming of course the a/c is not on.
Sorry, by "smaller" I meant an underdrive alternator pulley. I didn't know that about the alternator, for I've never actually tried to spin it with the belt on. So, if the alternator absorbs the most power, why is there not a stronger emphasis on changing it (instead of the crank)?
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Originally Posted by Iron Sights
Sorry, by "smaller" I meant an underdrive alternator pulley. I didn't know that about the alternator, for I've never actually tried to spin it with the belt on. So, if the alternator absorbs the most power, why is there not a stronger emphasis on changing it (instead of the crank)?
By changing the crank pulley, you automatically reduce all accessories' rpm by 25%. You only want to get the alternator pulley when you reallize youre not producing enough voltage with everything underdriven 25%, so you need to kick the alternator rpm back up to near stock.

if you were to put the alternator pulley on a motor with a stock crank pulley, you would reduce HP and would be spinning the alternator much faster.
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Hey I just noticed the owner only included one new belt with the SLP underdrive pulley. (Hey removed the a/c before) Eventually I'll reinstall the A/C and need a new belt to go with the underdrive pulley, anyone know the size? (or the size of the main belt too to make sure its the right size he gave me)

2000 Trans Am

Also, wheres the best place to pickup a pulley puller?

Thanks!
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if your going gatorback belts, the part #for serpentine belt is 19-760K6. and the part # for a/c belt is 19-K040378. if you have a autozone near you, they will rent you a 3 jaw puller or go to a harbor frieght and buy one.
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I got the 3 jaw puller from autozone, anything else I need other than the pulley and new belt?
Any good advice or instructions?
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Ugh, the SLP instructions show needing two special GM tools, can I fake it with something else?

3. Use GM tool J 41665 to install the SLP crankshaft balancer.
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8. Tighten the bolt a second pass to 140 degrees using a GM tool J 36660-A.
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Hahaha, those tool numbers are a joke. I think that's basically a torque wrench, and maybe a longer crank bolt. You don't need anything special, don't get crazy. GM tools like J xyz, are usually nothing special.
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Originally Posted by tcossair
Ugh, the SLP instructions show needing two special GM tools, can I fake it with something else?

3. Use GM tool J 41665 to install the SLP crankshaft balancer.
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8. Tighten the bolt a second pass to 140 degrees using a GM tool J 36660-A.
You just need a torque wrench capable of atleast 240 ft-lbs, and you don't really need that angle tool; I just made one mark as a reference (on the bolt) and a second mark on the pulley 120 degrees to the right. I did mine on a lift so it was challenging finding a way to keep the wheels from spinning (I had to sit in the car and hold the brakes while someone else turned the crank bolt and the wheels were still inching forward! ), but if you keep the wheels on the ground you should be good to go. Just take your time, and be careful not to strip anything.
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So if you have an automatic should you even worry about upgrading the crank pulley?
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Originally Posted by SRpwred240
So if you have an automatic should you even worry about upgrading the crank pulley?
It's a good mod for a auto too.
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I think with my loose vig2800 stall it keeps the battery charged.
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This seems like such an unclear topic all the time.

My big questions are:

1: Do autos with the underdrive pulley and without the alt. overdrive pulley have charging problems?

2: Do autos with the underdrive pulley and WITH the alt. overdrive pulley see any signifigant / worthwhile power gains ?

It seems to me that adding the overdrive pulley and underdrive pulley might effectively reduce the amount of underdrive you are adding to a point that it is no longer worthwhile to even do this on an auto. Am I wrong here??
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I have had no charging problems at all. I tossed the idea of getting a underdrive crank pulley. I just decided if I wanted to do it, I was going to do it with the cam swap since it has to come off any way.
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march ud pulleys throw belts also, btw. i have checked now and then to see if the belt is working it's way off, and sure enough i keep having to put it back in place. i need the "katech" solid tensioner, and will probably make that my next mod. i am unable to go WOT for the fear of throwing the belt again... that was not a fun experience @ 11 o'clock @ night in the middle of nowhere.
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If you want the A/C to blast in town, will it not work as well as when you had the stock crank pulley? I hardly ever use the A/C but I'd like to know.
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my lights use to dim with my underdrive pulley, i just had my tuner up the idle in drive and in park to keep the voltage up there, now it stays right at 13 volts with all my lights on at night, use to be around 11-12volts.
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I have the ASP 25% underdrive with the altenator pulley and I have absolutely no charging problems/dim lights. Except when it throws the belt




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