GM solution to detonation
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GM solution to detonation According to the july 2002 issue of GM Tech Link,(a monthly publication for GM dealerships)this is the solution to solve detonation."02-06-04-023;audible spark knock(detonation),MIL Illuminated, DTC PO332 set(replace rear bank knock sensor and rtv area around sensor);`98-02 camaro,corvette,firebird with 5.7L engine(VIN G-RPO LS1),`99-02 chev gmc trucks & suvs with 4.8,5.3,and 6.0 engines(VINs V,T,Z,N,U-RPOs LR4,LM7,L59,LQ9,LQ4)"I wonder if this will solve the problems that a lot of us seem to be experiencing.
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Re: GM solution to detonation I don't think you would want detonation.It can really wreak havoc on pistons.Once it detonates,you get KR therefore loss of timing and horsepower.I do wish I could tune this frickin car myself but don't have the equipment or know how to do so.I'll just take it back to my GM dealer and see if this service bulletin repair will work.
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Re: GM solution to detonation What he was trying to say was our 01's have alot less timing than 98-00's so we dont get detonation like the others unless our pcv is sucking oil like a starving vampire or another problem exists. My 00 ws6 pulled 4-4.5 more degrees of timing than either of my 01's do. Less timing and alot more TM with the 01-02's.
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Re: GM solution to detonation Well said Y2K BlackBird, i havent even gained timing WOT with HPP3 on Power tune!I want 30* of timing and cant get it with that or Maf Translator. I wish i could download Hpp3 for 2000 Fbody.
Re: GM solution to detonation Well if a knock sensor is bad, then replacing it means you'll have knock retard instead of detonation. Of course, this is better for the engine, but doesn't solve the real problem (tuning off, or whatever's causing the knock).
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Re: GM solution to detonation </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LS1derfull:
<strong>Well said Y2K BlackBird, i havent even gained timing WOT with HPP3 on Power tune!I want 30* of timing and cant get it with that or Maf Translator. I wish i could download Hpp3 for 2000 Fbody.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Have you seen the new ls1 timing tuner?It allows you to advance or retard your timing.Tbyrne has it for 279 I believe.
<strong>Well said Y2K BlackBird, i havent even gained timing WOT with HPP3 on Power tune!I want 30* of timing and cant get it with that or Maf Translator. I wish i could download Hpp3 for 2000 Fbody.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Have you seen the new ls1 timing tuner?It allows you to advance or retard your timing.Tbyrne has it for 279 I believe.
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Re: GM solution to detonation </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mike's 01WS6:
<strong>The 01-02 models have about 10 degrees of advance ground into the camshaft and less timing is needed.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mike i have custom ground cam so my 01 needs more timing than it did stock, but are you pretty sure there is that much ground in timing?
<strong>The 01-02 models have about 10 degrees of advance ground into the camshaft and less timing is needed.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mike i have custom ground cam so my 01 needs more timing than it did stock, but are you pretty sure there is that much ground in timing?
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Re: GM solution to detonation </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Alonzo:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LS1derfull:
<strong>Well said Y2K BlackBird, i havent even gained timing WOT with HPP3 on Power tune!I want 30* of timing and cant get it with that or Maf Translator. I wish i could download Hpp3 for 2000 Fbody.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Have you seen the new ls1 timing tuner?It allows you to advance or retard your timing.Tbyrne has it for 279 I believe.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks i have seen this and im interested, i needed Hpp3 for other options but i think Timing Tuner will be next. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LS1derfull:
<strong>Well said Y2K BlackBird, i havent even gained timing WOT with HPP3 on Power tune!I want 30* of timing and cant get it with that or Maf Translator. I wish i could download Hpp3 for 2000 Fbody.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Have you seen the new ls1 timing tuner?It allows you to advance or retard your timing.Tbyrne has it for 279 I believe.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks i have seen this and im interested, i needed Hpp3 for other options but i think Timing Tuner will be next. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: GM solution to detonation BTW, for all with detonation issues i would modify PCV system first with in line seperator, and see if this helps knock issues before anything else. It works great for me, i can really lean my setup out with no knock issues at all.
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Re: GM solution to detonation </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mike's 01WS6:
<strong>The 01-02 models have about 10 degrees of advance ground into the camshaft and less timing is needed.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is valve timing, detonation is cause by ignition timing.
<strong>The 01-02 models have about 10 degrees of advance ground into the camshaft and less timing is needed.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is valve timing, detonation is cause by ignition timing.
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