Calling all Bolt-on Only Users
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Calling all Bolt-on Only Users This is for driver only using bolt-on items. Things like headers, pulleys, MAF, TB, exhaust, etc. No changes to the long block like heads and cam. I would like to know your RWHP number with these mods. Trying to find the best combo for my 2001 Formula.
Re: Calling all Bolt-on Only Users </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Gold Phoenix:
<strong>This is for driver only using bolt-on items. Things like headers, pulleys, MAF, TB, exhaust, etc. No changes to the long block like heads and cam. I would like to know your RWHP number with these mods. Trying to find the best combo for my 2001 Formula.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmmm.......RWHP numbers don't always mean much. Mine only dyno'd at 318rwhp and 350tq but that was through a 3600 stall and 3.73 gears and I run 12.05 @ 113.78mph.
My point here is that the bolt on mods list is pretty much the same but you have to remember that every engine/car is different. There seems to be a special chemistry for each car. I have seen several cars respond to mods differently. It really is somewhat of a trail and error process for each car.
Good luck.
btw my mod list is......160 tstat, UD pulley, maf ends, SLP cold Air, MAFT, FLP LT's without cats, magnaflow muffler, 3.73 gears and a 3600 stall.
<strong>This is for driver only using bolt-on items. Things like headers, pulleys, MAF, TB, exhaust, etc. No changes to the long block like heads and cam. I would like to know your RWHP number with these mods. Trying to find the best combo for my 2001 Formula.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmmm.......RWHP numbers don't always mean much. Mine only dyno'd at 318rwhp and 350tq but that was through a 3600 stall and 3.73 gears and I run 12.05 @ 113.78mph.
My point here is that the bolt on mods list is pretty much the same but you have to remember that every engine/car is different. There seems to be a special chemistry for each car. I have seen several cars respond to mods differently. It really is somewhat of a trail and error process for each car.
Good luck.
btw my mod list is......160 tstat, UD pulley, maf ends, SLP cold Air, MAFT, FLP LT's without cats, magnaflow muffler, 3.73 gears and a 3600 stall.
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Re: Calling all Bolt-on Only Users You have an A4 too, that changes things too. I have a M6 with my stock rear. I am afraid if I dump it too hard I will break something unlike autos
Re: Calling all Bolt-on Only Users i think the average for M6's with bolt ons is like 360hp. Thats with headers, pulley, lid and all other small things.
Some guys are getting up around 370-80 with edit tuning <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
but i let the track do the talking, cause i only showed 277 on the dyno with 3600 stall and headers, but i went 11's NA <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" /> i must be a damn good driver i guess <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> lol
i just dont like dynos <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />
Some guys are getting up around 370-80 with edit tuning <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
but i let the track do the talking, cause i only showed 277 on the dyno with 3600 stall and headers, but i went 11's NA <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" /> i must be a damn good driver i guess <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> lol
i just dont like dynos <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />
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Re: Calling all Bolt-on Only Users See #s in the sig. I really need to get some long tubes. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Edit: actually having my signature would help
<small>[ August 21, 2002, 07:01 PM: Message edited by: 00blkws6 ]</small>
Edit: actually having my signature would help
<small>[ August 21, 2002, 07:01 PM: Message edited by: 00blkws6 ]</small>
Re: Calling all Bolt-on Only Users </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i think the average for M6's with bolt ons is like 360hp. Thats with headers, pulley, lid and all other small things.
Some guys are getting up around 370-80 with edit tuning</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There have been zero LS1 bolt on cars to make 380 rwhp. 360 is also a pretty high and uncommon #. Most full blown M6 bolt on cars will make 335-350 rwhp depending on the year and tolerance of the motor from the factory...
FWIW, my 98 SS made 351 rwhp. 12.30s/115 mph
josh
Some guys are getting up around 370-80 with edit tuning</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There have been zero LS1 bolt on cars to make 380 rwhp. 360 is also a pretty high and uncommon #. Most full blown M6 bolt on cars will make 335-350 rwhp depending on the year and tolerance of the motor from the factory...
FWIW, my 98 SS made 351 rwhp. 12.30s/115 mph
josh
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Re: Calling all Bolt-on Only Users check my sig and ADD A ATI UNDERDRIVE CRANK PULLEY. before the FLPs and the pulley i dynoed 330hp 345 tq.
Hope that helps <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Hope that helps <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Calling all Bolt-on Only Users Here's a breakdown of the dyno numbers for my M6 2002 Z28.
I am currently at 332.9RWHP & 347.9LB/FT with only a lid, FTRA+K&N, descreened MAF, Loud Mouth.
Next week I am having the following done by ARE, FLP LTs with ORPs, FLP electric cut-out, ported throttle body, 160 thermostat, LS1 Edit tuning. I am shooting for 360-370RWHP. Heads and cam will be next, in the mean time I have my NOS 5177 100HP shot just in case <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
As you can see from the dyno scans, they are all done at the same place... so you can trust these numbers. For those of you non-metric people, 60 miles = 100 KMs...
With 700KMs and 100% bone stock it made 303.7HP & 329.8LB/FT
http://solo2.abac.com/avigdor/temp/Z28/dyno.jpg
At 1600KMs I added a Loud Mouth cat back and went back to the dyno. The numbers went up to 314.0 RWHP & 334.8LB/FT.
http://solo2.abac.com/avigdor/temp/Z28/dyno-lm.jpg
At 2300KMs I added a Fast Toys ram air, lid and K&N filter. The numbers with these mods where 323.2RWHP 340.5LB/FT.
http://solo2.abac.com/avigdor/temp/Z28/dyno-lm-lid.jpg
I managed to drive another 5000KMs with out any more modifications, until a good deal came up on a NOS 5177 dry kit. In order to
Run this kit I had to descreen the MAF. With 7000KMs I dyno'ed the car again to see if this helped my HP output. It did, I went up to 332.9RWHP & 347.9LB/FT
http://solo2.abac.com/avigdor/temp/Z28/dyno%20NOS.jpg
With the car still on the dyno, now came the fun part of trying the NOS, with a single 100HP jet the numbers jumped up to 419RWHP and get this, 528.2LB/FT!
http://solo2.abac.com/avigdor/temp/Z28/dyno%20NOS.jpg
I am currently at 332.9RWHP & 347.9LB/FT with only a lid, FTRA+K&N, descreened MAF, Loud Mouth.
Next week I am having the following done by ARE, FLP LTs with ORPs, FLP electric cut-out, ported throttle body, 160 thermostat, LS1 Edit tuning. I am shooting for 360-370RWHP. Heads and cam will be next, in the mean time I have my NOS 5177 100HP shot just in case <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
As you can see from the dyno scans, they are all done at the same place... so you can trust these numbers. For those of you non-metric people, 60 miles = 100 KMs...
With 700KMs and 100% bone stock it made 303.7HP & 329.8LB/FT
http://solo2.abac.com/avigdor/temp/Z28/dyno.jpg
At 1600KMs I added a Loud Mouth cat back and went back to the dyno. The numbers went up to 314.0 RWHP & 334.8LB/FT.
http://solo2.abac.com/avigdor/temp/Z28/dyno-lm.jpg
At 2300KMs I added a Fast Toys ram air, lid and K&N filter. The numbers with these mods where 323.2RWHP 340.5LB/FT.
http://solo2.abac.com/avigdor/temp/Z28/dyno-lm-lid.jpg
I managed to drive another 5000KMs with out any more modifications, until a good deal came up on a NOS 5177 dry kit. In order to
Run this kit I had to descreen the MAF. With 7000KMs I dyno'ed the car again to see if this helped my HP output. It did, I went up to 332.9RWHP & 347.9LB/FT
http://solo2.abac.com/avigdor/temp/Z28/dyno%20NOS.jpg
With the car still on the dyno, now came the fun part of trying the NOS, with a single 100HP jet the numbers jumped up to 419RWHP and get this, 528.2LB/FT!
http://solo2.abac.com/avigdor/temp/Z28/dyno%20NOS.jpg
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Re: Calling all Bolt-on Only Users </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Damian:
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There have been zero LS1 bolt on cars to make 380 rwhp. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There is one that I've heard of. Before my heads/cam, had I been running a stock rear end instead of a 33 spline 12 bolt 3.73 gear ratio I'd have been #2.
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There have been zero LS1 bolt on cars to make 380 rwhp. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There is one that I've heard of. Before my heads/cam, had I been running a stock rear end instead of a 33 spline 12 bolt 3.73 gear ratio I'd have been #2.
Re: Calling all Bolt-on Only Users </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There is one that I've heard of.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">"Heard of". Not seen, not confirmed
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">had I been running a stock rear end instead of a 33 spline 12 bolt 3.73 gear ratio I'd have been #2.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Woulda, shoulda, coulda. I have seen people dyno the exact same after 12 bolt swaps <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">had I been running a stock rear end instead of a 33 spline 12 bolt 3.73 gear ratio I'd have been #2.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Woulda, shoulda, coulda. I have seen people dyno the exact same after 12 bolt swaps <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Re: Calling all Bolt-on Only Users I am in the 360's. I wish I could make it to the 370 mark. I could run a new flywheel or DS but don't feel like spending the money for 6hp. Mods and dyno #'s are in my sig.