ordering headers this week and still need a lil help on my choice
ordering headers this week and still need a lil help on my choice I have been looking up the hooker long tube headers and the jet hot long tube headers and i keep seeing they r the same header, i ahve a 2001 camaro ss and am wonderign which ones would be the best bet to go with, and do u need the air and egr fittings on ur headers
I believe the difference between hooker headers, and jet-hot headers, is that one has the O2 bung on the inside (toward the tranny), and the other has the O2 bung on the outside (toward the doors).
Why not get Pacesetters? They are a great price, great fit, and have great performance. They are the only choice in my mind if you don't want to drop the dough on stainless headers.
Your 2001 car has no EGR system, and the AIR is only used to make the cats reach the emissions legal light off point faster. My recommendation is get the "race" headers with no fittings and have the AIR/ Rear O2 sensors delted via LS1edit or HPtuners by a shop. Running O2 sims costs about the same as getting the codes delted. Removing the AIR frees up space under you hood, takes off some weight, and looks better.
Why not get Pacesetters? They are a great price, great fit, and have great performance. They are the only choice in my mind if you don't want to drop the dough on stainless headers.
Your 2001 car has no EGR system, and the AIR is only used to make the cats reach the emissions legal light off point faster. My recommendation is get the "race" headers with no fittings and have the AIR/ Rear O2 sensors delted via LS1edit or HPtuners by a shop. Running O2 sims costs about the same as getting the codes delted. Removing the AIR frees up space under you hood, takes off some weight, and looks better.
I just installed a set of ceramic coated Pacesetter long tubes and Y pipe on one of my trucks. For the price it's a good deal altho the Y pipe is not ceramic coated. It's a good looking header if that matters and I noticed that it starts pulling hard earlier on in the RPM range since I installed the long tubes. I had a stainless shortie on there before which I now know was a waste of time and money.
Last edited by eallanboggs; Apr 10, 2006 at 04:03 AM.
im not to worried about the price of the headers, i have my mind set on one of these two brands i just am tryign to figure out which has the best and performance gains, with gettting the lt headers if i get a y pipe that has hi flow cats on it will it even be worth or it or will it just cause power loss
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I got the caoted pacesetters because frankly, they're cheap, with a good reputation for fitting, and not warping the flanges.
FWIW if you can swing the cost, go with a set of stainless headers (I think hooker makes a stainless set for LS1s) then the only reason to get them coated is the thermal protection .
As for the cats, they won't hurt too bad, maybe 2-4 hp on a stockish motor, and they go a long way in toning down the rasp of the exhaust, plus they take most of the gas smell out (if you care that is)
EGR is internal on the 01&02 f bodys, so you don't need a fitting, the AIR, you can take off, or leave on depending if you have to pass a visual emissions inspection (another reason to get cats too), if you don't, rip that stuff out the engine looks alot cleaner without it
FWIW if you can swing the cost, go with a set of stainless headers (I think hooker makes a stainless set for LS1s) then the only reason to get them coated is the thermal protection .
As for the cats, they won't hurt too bad, maybe 2-4 hp on a stockish motor, and they go a long way in toning down the rasp of the exhaust, plus they take most of the gas smell out (if you care that is)
EGR is internal on the 01&02 f bodys, so you don't need a fitting, the AIR, you can take off, or leave on depending if you have to pass a visual emissions inspection (another reason to get cats too), if you don't, rip that stuff out the engine looks alot cleaner without it
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If your stuck between the JetHots and Hookers, I can send you pics of my JetHots and Mufflex ORY. Both are very nice. I was thnkin of mounting the headers above my fireplace they are so nice. 
They are sittin here in the livingroom in the box.
Just waiten for the time to install. I can send all the pics you want and from any angle since they are off the car.
Let me know.
R/
Frat
Oh yeah....check your PM.
They are sittin here in the livingroom in the box. Just waiten for the time to install. I can send all the pics you want and from any angle since they are off the car.
Let me know.
R/
Frat
Oh yeah....check your PM.
Shrugs, I was just in your dilemma. Deciding which LT's to get to replace my rusty old mac mids and catted Y. Since I wanted a catted y-pipe, I was looking at alot of the 1000+ headers. After already dishing out almost 2k in mods this month, and not to mention the price for the installs, I couldnt afford to put out that much.. IE kooks.
Thus, I looked at the more budget line of headers. Jet hots, hooker, pacesetter etc. The best bang for the buck, with least issues seemed to be the new pacesetter LT's with the TSP catted y-pipe. Coated LT's, y-pipe combo off the shelf was 750 or so shipped.
The save in price covered my cam package
Anyways.
If money isn't an issue.. I still say Kooks.
Thus, I looked at the more budget line of headers. Jet hots, hooker, pacesetter etc. The best bang for the buck, with least issues seemed to be the new pacesetter LT's with the TSP catted y-pipe. Coated LT's, y-pipe combo off the shelf was 750 or so shipped.
The save in price covered my cam package
Anyways.
If money isn't an issue.. I still say Kooks.
Originally Posted by 01BlackCamaroSS
i have my mind set on one of these two brands
There is NO reason not to get pacesetters if you don't want stainless. They work perfect, look perfect, fit perfect, and are cheap. It's like paying $.50 for chrome valve stem caps, or paying $1.00 for chrome valve stem caps.
If they were not up to snuff, do you think %90 of the people on here would be running them and advising you to do the same?
