Ok, i've been trying to decide between these headers, and everybody that has each loves them. However, i need to hear all the horror stories of each header. So instead of just good stuff, i also wanna hear all the problems that you've had or someone else has had with the headers. I know that the Ground clearance on the Hookers is good. But i've heard from some people that FLP's have great ground clearance, and from other that the driverside is alittle low at the flanges. But i've also heard that the o2 sensor position on the driver's side on the hookers can cause some problems. Which produces more power?

So I wanna hear the whole truth on both of these headers.

Thanks in advance.

 

I've had Dyna's which is basically a FLP,Fit and finish is awesome but the tube lengths are all over the place.

They do slip into the car very easy and I had no banging but that was because of the custom Y I had built for my car.

If I wouldnt of bought STEPPED versions they would still be on my car,I sold them to JPR for a 422 he is setting up for a customer.Too much loss of TQ with the stepped dyna/flp

I just finished a Hooker install on my car.They are Jet hot coated.IMO,they are alittle nicer than my Dynas'.

Tube lengths are more equal and they went in easy too with no banging.The Y is very nice and I hope to see my TQ come back since they are 1 3/4in.

My 02's seem to be in perfect location and I ground down the bungs alittle just to make sure both sensors are in the stream.

IMO u cant got wrong with either header.But if your not gonna run cats,I'd opt for the Hookers.

JS

<small>[ September 26, 2002, 10:55 PM: Message edited by: JS ]</small>

 

I would say Hookers!!!

But if I had a choice of all, it would be Grotts as I have mine and should be installed soon!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

<small>[ September 26, 2002, 11:58 PM: Message edited by: BADZ ]</small>

 

I had a slight problem with the Hooker Long tubes. (The location of the driver's side O2 sensor.) The heat sheild ended up cutting a wire on my O2 sensor. Afterwards I just bent the heat sheild a little bit out of the way and now it is fine other than replacing the O2. I'm still very happy with the Hooker LT's and I would recommend them.

Good Luck,
Mike

 

I just bent the shield alittle bit and ran the wires neatly.No problem at all.

Grots are the best but too hard to get,IMO Hookers are right in line with a Grot and I needed headers now,not in a month...

U wont be sorry with the Hookers...

JS

 

I like all of these replies <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> , I just ordered my Hooker Longtubes with the offroad y-pipe and they are supposed to be here Mon or Tues. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
I can't wait!! <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />

 

Both are real nice headers. I'd say FLPs have the best fit and finish of any header out there. But to me it boils down to this. FLPs are a complete system. Hookers are just headers and off-road Y. If you never plan to run cats then the hookers would save you a lot of money. If you do plan to run cats or plan to switch and like having that option then the FLPs are definitely the way to go, cheaper, cleaner, better, and come with excellent cats!

JMHO,
Mike B.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JS:
<strong>
IMO u cant got wrong with either header.But if your not gonna run cats,I'd opt for the Hookers.

JS</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I plan on running cats. Would you still suggest the Hookers with a custom Y or the FLP's? Which one offers best ground clearance with the cats in?

 

Ok here is the down side on FLP they can bang the bottom of the car on a silly little corner under the drivers side (just apply a hammer to that corner, you will never see it) Also you could end up having to losen up the steering column and move it (depends on where the factory placed yours) there is at least a half inch of adjustment so no big deal and it take less than 10min to do it. The up side is fit and finsih is great, they also look great and add good power but hands down the ability to swap out the cats in just a few minutes is worth every cent, and there cats only eat about 8hp compared to many that eat 15-20hp.

Ozz

 

Being a new member, I am already realizing the great amount of help everyone provides, TM. I am also tossing up exhaust systems, I would like to run true duals, tight under the car but may need the cats put in at a later time like a couple years. I researched shops for the duals and have a repsectable shop to do it, real clean, quality work, but as for headers, i never heard of Grotts before, where are they sold? And, would there be enough room left to add cats later still running true duals? Again, TM. What does 'ttt' stand for?

 

I don't have headers yet, but I have been browsing, lurking, and posting on LS1/Camaro sites for 3 years. In that time one thing is obvious: The complaint ratio between Hookers and FLPs is so lopsided against FLPs that it is crazy. You almost never hear a bad thing about Hookers. FLPs have had:
Banging
False KR tricking the computer
Pipes hitting the steering shaft and binding
Rust
Peeling
Melted (severely warped from heat) oil filters...
(Can't imagine what that kind of heat is doing to your oil)
Some folks literally cannot get thier oil plugs out
Some can barely get the plugs out
Some don't have a probem with clearance
I am forgetting some, but you get the jist. All of this tells me that the manufacture of FLPs is not consistent and quality control sucks. Headers aren't on the top of my mod list at the moment, but I am getting Hookers when the time comes. Any competent muffler shop can install cats for me if I so choose.
Dave

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by CAT3:
<strong> What does 'ttt' stand for?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ttt = to the top
as in bringing a post back to the top of the list

 

MTI is putting FLP on my car. They like them, but I`m getting LS1 edit also. They have no complaints on them! I`m getting alot of work done and they are going to lower my car also. I hope this helps! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by beardWS6:
<strong>MTI is putting FLP on my car. They like them, but I`m getting LS1 edit also. They have no complaints on them! I`m getting alot of work done and they are going to lower my car also. I hope this helps! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Lemme know how the FLP's are with a lowered car.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ozz:
<strong>Ok here is the down side on FLP they can bang the bottom of the car on a silly little corner under the drivers side (just apply a hammer to that corner, you will never see it) Also you could end up having to losen up the steering column and move it (depends on where the factory placed yours) there is at least a half inch of adjustment so no big deal and it take less than 10min to do it. The up side is fit and finsih is great, they also look great and add good power but hands down the ability to swap out the cats in just a few minutes is worth every cent, and there cats only eat about 8hp compared to many that eat 15-20hp.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If the fit and finish is so good, why do you have to adjust the steering column? I've heard that with the hookers, you take off the steering column for install, but you put it back w/o adjusting it after install is complete. I dont like the idea of moving the steering column permanently.

 

What size piping should i use when i have my ypipe made? 2.5" or 3".