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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Going with a dual setup... using no mufflers and no cats.

My headers have 3 1/2 inch primaries and i plan to run 3 1/2in piping into the X and then dump it right after.

This is going on a car that makes roughly 800whp. I read that 3inch duals can only support rougly around 800-900whp, is this true?

I want maximum gains out of this. I have not seen a picture of 3 1/2 duals before.. but my floorboards have already been clearanced.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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I believe 3" becomes restrictive around there...I would most likely go with 3.5 in.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SiL3NtXWS6

I want maximum gains out of this. I have not seen a picture of 3 1/2 duals before.. but my floorboards have already been clearanced.
You must be in the 40X+ cubes. Decide on your exhaust N/A unless this is a track car and rarely sees the street. If it is a full on race car then dual exhaust probably isnt the best idea for monster power. You probably don't see 3.5" duals because they won't fit unless you go with the BFH method on the underside of the car.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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yea, and what he said.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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It's not a track car but it's not a daily driver.

I use this car for street racing and track racing with some occasional stops in between.

So, you guys think i wouldn't notice a difference in power between 3 1/2in and 3in at ~560whp N/A?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Go with 3.5", you *****. Like I told you and told you, Dr. Gas 3.5" X-pipe! CAUSE THATS HOW WE ROLL DOWN IN THE SOUF SIIDDEEE, WE BE STRAPPIN THEM GATS, AND DEUCIN THEM CATSSSSSSSS
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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^^^ WTF? ^^^

This car has 3.5" duals on it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4626930042

Might just want to get some 3.5" bullets and clamp them onto the collectors with a turndown.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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You need about 2.2 cfm and 20.3" of water per HP for max efficency. Pipes flow about 115 cfm per square inch across (a 3" pipe is about 7 in^2 -- 1.5^2 * 3.14).

3" dual
Max HP = pipe radius^2 * 3.14 * number of pipes * 115 / 2.2
738 HP = 1.5^2 * 3.14 * 2 * 115 / 2.2
3.5" dual
1005 HP = 1.75^2 * 3.14 * 2 * 115 / 2.2

Your call

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Going with 3.5. Thanks for the help and math
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Originally Posted by SiL3NtXWS6
Going with 3.5. Thanks for the help and math
Now your pipe will be bigger than ours.....
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Originally Posted by steve2001sh
You need about 2.2 cfm and 20.3" of water per HP for max efficency. Pipes flow about 115 cfm per square inch across (a 3" pipe is about 7 in^2 -- 1.5^2 * 3.14).

3" dual
Max HP = 2.2 * pipe radius^2 * 3.14 * number of pipes * 115
738 HP = 2.2 * 1.5^2 * 3.14 * 2 * 115
3.5" dual
1005 HP = 2.2 * 1.75^2 * 3.14 * 2 * 115

Your call
BTW - You need to be dividing all that by 2.2, not multiplying.

Max HP = (pipe radius^2 * 3.14 * number of pipes * 115) / 2.2 = CFM/2.2
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
BTW - You need to be dividing all that by 2.2, not multiplying.

Max HP = (pipe radius^2 * 3.14 * number of pipes * 115) / 2.2 = CFM/2.2
Thanks for the catch. I did the math right. I just typed it wrong. I will edit my original post.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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[QUOTE=SiL3NtXWS6]

This is going on a car that makes roughly 800whp. I read that 3inch duals can only support rougly around 800-900whp, is this true?

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I wish I had this problem.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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maybe someday? I was cam only 4 times before i stepped it up
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