Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

cam or ls6 manifold which 1st?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 20, 2002 | 08:56 PM
  #1  
destroyerSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,107
Likes: 0
From: Orange county n.y.
Default cam or ls6 manifold which 1st?

what would you suggest ls6 manifold or a tr224/224 112lsa? 98 ss m6 all other bolt on's done. what power gains for each HP&ft/lb
Old Dec 20, 2002 | 09:02 PM
  #2  
T/ABlast69's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: Maple Shade
Default Re: cam or ls6 manifold which 1st?

Well i think its like 5rwhp with the ls6 manfold for about 400 plus dollars or 400 for the cam plus 200 for retainer plus springs u couls look at 30 plus rwhp. Go with the cam its worth the money.
Old Dec 20, 2002 | 09:18 PM
  #3  
destroyerSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,107
Likes: 0
From: Orange county n.y.
Default Re: cam or ls6 manifold which 1st?

the ls6 manifold only gives a 5 rwhp gain doesn't seem worth it. Is the 224/224 112lsa 581 581 a good choice?
Old Dec 20, 2002 | 09:33 PM
  #4  
99 Black Bird T/A's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 8,638
Likes: 1,499
Default Re: cam or ls6 manifold which 1st?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by destroyerSS:
<strong>the ls6 manifold only gives a 5 rwhp gain doesn't seem worth it. Is the 224/224 112lsa 581 581 a good choice?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think the 224 XE-R is an excellent choice, with heads. I don't think the .581 lift is necessary with stock heads. I don't think the .581 lift will gain anything over the TR-224's .561 lift on stock heads. The 981 springs will work but you'll need to change them more often to be safe. The Rev duals for unmachinced heads have gotten mixed reviews. I think for the XE-R cams it's very wise to run dual springs, otherwise your asking for trouble later on.

If your going to keep stock heads, I'd go with a TR-224 or TR-220 or Hammer/C1/Go Fast T/A 222/222 XE cam.
Old Dec 20, 2002 | 09:52 PM
  #5  
98TAauto's Avatar
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,316
Likes: 0
From: Warsaw, Va
Default Re: cam or ls6 manifold which 1st?

224 .581 112 is a great stock heads or ported heads cam!!!

either way both those mods work off each other.... you will end up needing both for peak HP... cams like air and and open exhaust <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

TR224 cam is a great choice... but for a M6 112 is a nice LSA! 114 for autos

also look into getting LS1 edit if you are going the cam route. Its worth the money
Old Dec 20, 2002 | 10:11 PM
  #6  
destroyerSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,107
Likes: 0
From: Orange county n.y.
Default Re: cam or ls6 manifold which 1st?

WILL THE 581 LIFT HURT WITH STOCK HEADS AND HOW MUCH MORE ABUSE DOES IT DO COMPARED TO THE 561 LIFT? HOW ABOUT A SPLIT DURATION/LIFT CAM WHICH IS BETTER.I HOPE TO DO HEAD MODS IN THE FUTURE PROB ABOUT A YR OR SO. THANKS
Old Dec 20, 2002 | 10:41 PM
  #7  
99 Black Bird T/A's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 8,638
Likes: 1,499
Default Re: cam or ls6 manifold which 1st?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by destroyerSS:
<strong>WILL THE 581 LIFT HURT WITH STOCK HEADS AND HOW MUCH MORE ABUSE DOES IT DO COMPARED TO THE 561 LIFT? HOW ABOUT A SPLIT DURATION/LIFT CAM WHICH IS BETTER.I HOPE TO DO HEAD MODS IN THE FUTURE PROB ABOUT A YR OR SO. THANKS</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Long as the 918's hold up I doubt the extra lift will hurt anything but the extra lift isn't going to gain you anything either with stock heads. If your going to ported heads later and willing try it go for it.

Here are a few more threads that might be of interest. Note in one of the threads someone made 397rwhp with a .525 lift cam and stock heads.

https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c;f=1;t=005067

https://ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...1;t=006697;p=2

https://ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...=007679#000002
Old Dec 20, 2002 | 11:00 PM
  #8  
destroyerSS's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,107
Likes: 0
From: Orange county n.y.
Default Re: cam or ls6 manifold which 1st?

thanks for the info seems like the 561 lift should make me the power and give less headahces down the road{don't feel like changing springs to often}but again is there any advantage to running a split duration/lift cam with about the same specs as im looking at now? thanks again for all your help
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Dec 21, 2002 | 08:30 AM
  #9  
WILWAXU's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 14,378
Likes: 1
From: League City, TX
Default Re: cam or ls6 manifold which 1st?

Moving to Internal engine




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:59 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE