BuckeyeROC

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I just did a search on MAF ends and found that a lot of people have dyno proven gains from these. That kind of surprised me, I thought they might be one of those mods like the throttle body airfoils for L98's and LT1's, which is kind of a bs mod.

Anyway, I've seen like 6-10 rwhp gains claimed. Can most of you vouch for this mod? Is it one of the "must do's"? I have a stock 98 T/A (still being shipped to me) w/ a Stealth airbox and Pro 5.0 that will be my first mods. I was going to do the exhaust next. Are the MAF ends worth it right now or should I wait until I have a cam?

<small>[ December 27, 2002, 02:10 PM: Message edited by: BuckeyeROC ]</small>

Boo Yeah

i did a maf, it seemed to allow the car to pull harder up top, less decline of acceleration.
But I can't vouche for the MAF ends

theblur98ss

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I would stay away from the maf. The ends will yeild a gain but you will more then likely need to tune the car with a maf translator. The money is better used somewhere else at this point. Alot of guys run great times with the stock or desceened stock maf.

mike c.

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i never dynoed my tr hiflo ends,but they did take me from 13.12 to 12.94. not bad for a low cost mod $$. now i run 11.7's and still have them on my ride.

Boo Yeah

that sounds like alot of et for that mod, was conditions the same?? Same 60'?? i just can't believe that. SORRY

unit213

Depending on mike c's A/F ratio before the MAF ends, I can see how he dropped ET like that. Since you have a M6, you should go with the MAF ends. Just be sure to tune it in.

WILWAXU

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Whisper Ported MAF Ends:

Before 311.1/326.0 SAE 320.9/336.3 Actual
After 318.0/335.2 SAE 328.2/345.9 Actual

TransAm2002

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Maf ends are a good buy. They can give you up to 10RWHP. I would do it. I run a GMS maf, but if they had the ported maf ends when I bought this maf, I would have the bought them instead of the GMS. Cheaper and they do practically the same thing. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

mike c.

iTrader: (1)

well boo yeah,....before hiflo ends my ta would go 13.12 to 13.15 at 108 to 109.four days after the mod i went to the track and pulled 13.01,12.94,12.98 and 13.04. it was not tuned till i got heads and cam.60 foots always close,dont remember the weather but i never go to the track if it's 88deg or over. SO REMEMBER,I'M NOT HERE TO BULLSHIT ANY ONE. IF I CAN HELP GREAT,IF NOT THEN I WONT COMMENT ON PEOPLES POST. thank you., mike c.

unit213

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mike c.:
<strong> SO REMEMBER,I'M NOT HERE TO BULLSHIT ANY ONE. IF I CAN HELP GREAT,IF NOT THEN I WONT COMMENT ON PEOPLES POST. thank you., mike c. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well said.

OBSSSD

A MAFT would accomplish the same thing and give you much more ability to adjust over time with each new mod. You can find them used for $100.

mike c.

iTrader: (1)

UGOT8- i dont know the best,but i have the tr hi flo ends and am happy with them. AND THANK YOU CAMARO LS1 FOR YOUR SUPPORT, mike c.

unit213

UGOT8, IMO MAF ends aren't a good mod for A4's. They are tough on auto tranny's resulting from decreased line pressure. Others may tell you different. That's my 2 cents though.

Orange Krush

Click the link that was my experience with ported maf ends ! <img border="0" alt="[cry]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" />

https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=24;t=000294

unit213

Orange Krush,

I clicked the link you provided and I read the entire post. Sorry to hear about your tranny problems. It wasn't in vane though. You and the rest of us at LS1tech are doing serious R&D. We can all learn from this. Kudos to you for going back and completing your post with the final outcome and the "verdict".

Dan

FireHawk-2K-487

AT and MAF ends = dead tranny unles you tune your car <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Orange Krush

Anytime, glad I could shed some light ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Lol ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

It does suck to learn when U aren't ready to upgrade, but fortunatley another board member was upgrading to ARE 436 so I got his slightly used stock 4L60-E for the right price ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

All's well that ends well ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

Supertrapped

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by camaro_ls1:
<strong> UGOT8, IMO MAF ends aren't a good mod for A4's. They are tough on auto tranny's resulting from decreased line pressure. Others may tell you different. That's my 2 cents though. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have a 98 A4 Formula with ported MAF ends. Hasn't hurt my tranny.

You are correct about the low line pressure damaging the tranny, but that is minimal and most likely won't be noticed. I have almost 80k miles on my car and haven't had one tranny problem besides the tranny mount needing replaced. Just a few bolt-ons, no tuning at all, and I'm runnin low 12s.

Then again...its different for every car.

Supertrapped

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by FireHawk-2K-487:
<strong> AT and MAF ends = dead tranny unles you tune your car <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wrong. Its different for every car. See my above reply

Orange Krush

I agree Devil ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

For us A4 LS1'ers that use our cars/trucks in a competiton mode, ported Maf ends will cause an issue after some heavy abuse without proper tuning ! <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />

As for street driven only A4 cars I'm sure the ends may not be so detremental ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Just for the record my Z has seen some serious abuse ! <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />

My car has 300+ 1320' passes on it, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> of those 100+ were on the sauce ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

I also have 150+ dyno pulls due to the tuning and testing of parts ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />