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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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I'm looking for a true dual setup for my 2000 Trans Am. Something that goes over the axles preferably and that isn't too loud.

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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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Basanni is the only one I can think of, but it's costly.
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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I'm looking for a true dual setup for my 2000 Trans Am. Something that goes over the axles preferably and that isn't too loud.

Anyone know of a sponsor that carries them?
if you dont like loud why the hell did you get a v8 go by a civic and put a silencer on the tail pipe instead of a bean can!!!!

anyway, the only way i could possibly think to have a QUIET td setup would be if you got 2'' or 2.5 at most and had an x run with a good set of mufflers plus cats from shorty headers or manifolds maybe lt's....idk what your standard of quiet is....i personally have 3'' X pipe with lt's no cats and jus a set of straight through bullets and i htink that is to quiet so your gonna have to go on ls1sounds and try and figure your level of sound out and get back to us for anyone to give you a better response....you might as well forget the money on the td's and jus get a cutout with stock exhaust if you want quiet
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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haha is it even possible for td's to be quiet? it seems like every post on here about them goes, i want power, oh yea, i want it to be loud as **** too... hahah good luck with them getting quiet, i would just have a shop go fab you a custom setup
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What is it with you guys and thinking duals can't be quiet!

Come on, one of you must be able to figure this out

Corevettes and Mustang all have duals stock from the factory as do many Jaguars and BMW's. Yet they are all quiet.

All you need is suitable muffling - EASY

If you plan to run them out the back then there's plenty of room to make TD's quieter than a stock catback!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm looking for a true dual setup for my 2000 Trans Am. Something that goes over the axles preferably and that isn't too loud.

Anyone know of a sponsor that carries them?
Most cases a custom setup is the answer, check the stickies out.

Although if you don't want it too loud is the sound that important?

If not then there are plenty of catbacks which still sound good, refined and will perform as well (BHP terms) on most bolt on/cammed setups.

You really need to be pushing past 450rwhp (Mustang Dyno or 480rwhp Dynojet) to really see any odds in bhp between them. - on a like for like basis of course.
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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What is it with you guys and thinking duals can't be quiet!

Come on, one of you must be able to figure this out

Corevettes and Mustang all have duals stock from the factory as do many Jaguars and BMW's. Yet they are all quiet.

All you need is suitable muffling - EASY

If you plan to run them out the back then there's plenty of room to make TD's quieter than a stock catback!!!!!!!!!!
Well, as i stated earlier in my post i said you could go with 2.5 piping with cats and muffs....however what the hell is the point of dropping 1000 $ on a x pipe setup with more restriction then a stock cat back just so you can say you have td's yet your losing hp to restriction....you can use vettes and stangs as examples but what it comes down to is there also held back by the restrictions and the piping size is small......the point of using and getting td's to the best of my knowledge was to absolutely maximize flow and to better aid the disapation of the scavenging affects of the headers....so why would you go to all the trouble of having a shop custom fab a td setup when you could go out and get a hooker cat back or what not that isnt that loud and you spend have the time and dont have as much restriction as the stocker....idk jus my .02

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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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however what the hell is the point of dropping 1000 $ on a x pipe setup with more restriction then a stock cat back just so you can say you have td's yet your losing hp to restriction....
I have a $1k set up and bassani muffler that I used is straight through flow muffler and its not LOUD but then again it will be louder as soon as I put a pair of longtubes.
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I'm all about quiet myself too, don't let these guys get you down. My setup is pretty tame right now, TD's, cats, bullets, under axle and out the rear. You can check the link in my sig or the TD's FAQ for more info. It's quieter than with no cats and dumps, but still outroars most catbacks.

I'm ditching the duals and going even QUIETER. I'm building a setup right now with a cutout and a STOCK catback. It's going to catch the cocky *** kids in this area a little offguard when this stockishly quiet car puts about 7 busses on their Mustang GT's.
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I was thinking about using a cutout and the stock catback. There is a company in CA called ATP Turbo, they make a cutout that operates via boost. I was thinking about the same idea, just using vacuum instead of boost.

BTW, love the avatar...

There are three reasons why I don't want it to be that loud:

1. I don't want nor need tickets for excessive noise. I got one with my LM when I lived in NY.
2. I have a son who is 16 days old as of today. I don't want something that's going to keep him up during car rides.
3. I'd like to NOT have interior resonance. That's truly paramount to me.

I've got a couple of good ideas now, thank you all.
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im all about loud, and that is what you get for the most part. Get some twisters and bullets all the way out the back if you want quiet.
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jus givin ya some crap its actually refreshing to see the opposite of this post...."LOUDEST MOST CRAZY INTENSE DEAFENING EXHAUST...HOW DO I GET IT" hahaha.....i can say that cuz that was what i posted when i was looking for exhaust hahaha i know ima hypocrit but whatever i love loud....if your ears arent ringing when i hit it then its jus not good enough....to each there own and i respect that !!!!


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Well, as i stated earlier in my post i said you could go with 2.5 piping with cats and muffs....however what the hell is the point of dropping 1000 $ on a x pipe setup with more restriction then a stock cat back just so you can say you have td's yet your losing hp to restriction....you can use vettes and stangs as examples but what it comes down to is there also held back by the restrictions and the piping size is small......the point of using and getting td's to the best of my knowledge was to absolutely maximize flow and to better aid the disapation of the scavenging affects of the headers....so why would you go to all the trouble of having a shop custom fab a td setup when you could go out and get a hooker cat back or what not that isnt that loud and you spend have the time and dont have as much restriction as the stocker....idk jus my .02

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I'm not disagreeing with any of that, As far as I'm concerned the louder the better

But the fact remains, you can have a very free flowing yet very quiet dual setup on an Fbody if you so wished.

Lt's, into high flow 3" core cats, neck down to 2.5" into X pipe then into some long 4"+ bullet mufflers, over the axle into larger free flowing bullets 6" body or bigger, or into some chambered mufflers. This would be pretty quiet and refined, yet very free flowing. I guess as a bench mark think SLP Dual Dual loud. There's even room that you could add some Powerstick chambered mufflers in there instead of straight pipe between the main mufflers.
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I'm not disagreeing with any of that, As far as I'm concerned the louder the better

But the fact remains, you can have a very free flowing yet very quiet dual setup on an Fbody if you so wished.

Lt's, into high flow 3" core cats, neck down to 2.5" into X pipe then into some long 4"+ bullet mufflers, over the axle into larger free flowing bullets 6" body or bigger, or into some chambered mufflers. This would be pretty quiet and refined, yet very free flowing. I guess as a bench mark think SLP Dual Dual loud. There's even room that you could add some Powerstick chambered mufflers in there instead of straight pipe between the main mufflers.
heres my only queary....why the hell go to all the trouble of trying to add core cats, and 2 sets of bullets plus possibly some power chambers all to quiet down td's....i'm just saying if you want quiet it would make tons more sense and save money to pick up some pacesetters 375, catted y 250 i believe and then any cat back you wish for what 400 maybe more maybe less...thats full exhaust that will still be LOUD at WOT but may be a lil quieter inside and at idle all for what 1025 dollars, were as td's on my car i have pacesetters to a custom X pipe under the axle (which is cheaper) out to 4" tips...the headers were 375 and the tips were 50 so the td's cost me 875 total now you throw in 2 sets of bullets thats prolly like 100 and then some high flow cats thats like prolly at least 75 and then some power chambers and there prolly bout the same 75 so now you have 375 for lt's, then 875+ for over the axle, then 300 for all your sound controll ****...thats a total of 1550 for exhaust that you jus spent all cuz you want QUIET td's it jus doenst make sense to me......idk jus my .02 FWIW
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Does it resonate inside the car? That is the question. I don't really care all THAT much how loud it is, just don't want it to be deafening inside. Outside, it's okay if it sets off car alarms and scares small children.
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Does it resonate inside the car? That is the question. I don't really care all THAT much how loud it is, just don't want it to be deafening inside. Outside, it's okay if it sets off car alarms and scares small children.


HAHAHHAHHA, i gotta say romping it up the levels of the car garage is the ****....when you stop and look back at all the tail lights flashing and hear every diff car alarm under the sun its def the ****....however i have lt's race style to a no emmissions no cats x pipe with small *** bullets aka they dont do ****....3'' piping all the way back to 4'' tips and i dont get much vibration at all if any...its loud but not hat bad i dont mind it at alll id actually like it louder haha

kids are the best....i had one guy fall off his bike one time i jus tapped it in 2nd and he swerved off and hit a curb and fell....keeping in mind i was in the other lane and i didnt do anything to him other then reve the engine
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