erikthegoalie

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no doubt...it has to!

1QUIKWS6

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Maybe on a drag only car where you are trying to eek out every leetle bit of HP - you sure aren't gonna notice it on a street car. I'd be more than willing to run my T/A with the Evans pump against his with an electric (everything else being equal) - I spent my $$ on items that would make a great deal of difference in HP/Torque

To be honest, the UD pulley is supposed to slow down the pump to net you more HP - in my early days I bit on that one - to be honest I feel it was a big waste of $$ as far as performance goes...

RaNsOm

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300,000 miles on the clock yet? lol

jimdavis@professional

I agree. Fine for a limited use vehicle but I wouldn't put one on a daily driver.

Michael02hawk

iTrader: (26)

Close - my #1 reason is my stock pump is leaking, so it has to be replaced.

Since I'm going to be spending 'some amoount of money' right now on a new pump, I'm concidering my choices. If the stock pump wasnt leaking, I wouldnt be thinking about a new pump, Electric or Mechanic.

I've looked up the Evans pumps, they are 'almost' as much money (if you consider the added cost of a new Serpt. Belt for $50), as the Meziere Street EWP.

Also Evas is stating: Evans coolant pumps can only be used with Evans NPG+ or NPG-R waterless coolant.

So, I'd have to switch to a different type of coolant for this pump?
Hhmmm, I'm not liking that idea.

1QUIKWS6

iTrader: (61)

Not true at all - just hype to try and sell the NPG coolant, which is quite expensive at around $125 for (4) gallons.

I ran my Evans pump for over a year with regular Dexcool with no problems. I don't disagree that the pump will cool even more using the Evans fluid - but that is more due to the fluid - not the pump.

I got my Evans pump during a GP Buy with the chrome-like ceramic finish for quite a bit off the regular price. Bought the coolant just this year during another GP Buy...

Michael02hawk

iTrader: (26)

Then I wished they had worded the advertisement differently. Instead of saying '...can only be used...' to '...recommended use...'.

allngn_c5

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Good point.

allngn_c5

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Don't forget a noticeable MPG increase. I love my Meziere, and wouldn't run a belt driven pump ever again. The EWP/UD pully allows me to see 34+ mpg with the cruise set at 80 in 6th gear. The engine seems to wind out quicker as well. Less parasitic loss. I had the Meziere EWP and ASP UD pully done at the same time and saw over 4 mpg increase in my fuel economy driving back to Michigan from Texas. Home of LG Motorsports, "where money buys speed" Sorry I couldn't resist. No bs on the gas mileage, plus more hp/tq and they look sweet.

1QUIKWS6

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Yes, even the sponsor I bought the pump thru (and eventually the coolant) stated that the pump would work fine with regular Dexcool.

Michael02hawk

iTrader: (26)

Thunder Racing (an LS1tech sponser) should look into updating thier advertisement on the Evans pump.

I've decided to go ahead with the Meziere EWP. Tho I concider my car a DD during the summer months, I do have a my 'winter car' always available, as a backup when it rains, snows and if the TA is down (like now, bad h20 pump).

I'll also plan on sending the pump into Meziere every 3 years, when the TA is in winter storage. This should cover all the bases. :-)

koolaid_kid

iTrader: (21)

Is that the higher flow one? They make two.

Michael02hawk

iTrader: (26)

I'm going with WEP319 (300 style), mostly for street.

Viper

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What's the difference? I'm looking at their site and the descriptions, and I see weather packing, but what else?

dopy

Just received mine from TSP looks so sweet (I ordered the black version)
Even if I don't gain any hp at least it looks good under the hood

Michael02hawk

iTrader: (26)

Nice. I also ordered the Black version. It should be delivered today, so guess what I'll be doing after work tonight? :-)

ArcticZ28

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That's the only reason I'd get one, for cosmetic reasons. Electric connections just introduce one more thing that can go wrong. You'll friggin know if the belt flies off your car, but not necessarily when the power cuts to your pump until it a) overheats or by some miraculous occurrence you happen to watch the water temp gauge the entire time you're driving. All this talk of parasitic loss from the stock belt-driven water pump is a bit extreme as well. Eliminating the need to drive the water pump can pretty much be equated to removing the a/c belt. Yes, it helps. But, does it help to the point of meriting all the extra money? Apparently some people think so. That's $75 per 1 hp (in the absolute best case scenario of a 7hp gain).

Viper

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You would almost want a light switch that would go off in the event power is off. The only other reason is the better gas mileage, but $579 can buy me a heck of a lot of gas!

ArcticZ28

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Say you get a crappy 175 miles to the tank (which anyone making power certainly does not get, I get about 140). Now, say a tank of gas (roughly 14 gallons) costs around $45-$50 if you're running premium. $529 / $50 (in the scenario you get horrible gas mileage now) = 10.58 tanks of gas. 10.58 tanks of gas x 175 miles 1851.5 miles of gas that you would waste on this pump. Assuming you get, say, 3mpg better mileage with the EWP (I doubt it's that high), and each tank holds 14 gallons, that is 42 extra miles per tank. You would have to fill your tank 44 times for the EWP cost/benefit to reach 1:1.

Viper

iTrader: (6)

Thanks ArcticZ28, i didn't feel like doing the math and I knew I could probably bait you to do it!! And yea, I'm getting at best 200 out of a tank of gas.