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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeremiah
I dont see anyone in this thread so far that can make use of a dual 3"X3" set up. It looks like everyone thinks the bigger is better rule applys to exhaust, the 2.5 out the back will support the needs of all but the most radical set up. Im making 570 to the ground and the dual 3" to 2.5 would be more than enough to support my needs, I would acually expect to lose a little low end power. I am interested more for the sound than any extra power I might gain.

I vote for the 3" to 2.5 set up, and yes I would be a buyer if its nicely done.
you wouldn't loose low end power, someone tested the bassani true dual system that was all 2.5 inch I believe ont wo cars and he didn't loose anything down low, I think it gained power through the entire curve.

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look at the new flowmaster single chamber fad. a few months ago, a handful of people on this site had them and most people didn't even know what they were. now everyone wants single chambers. take it all with a grain of salt.
I didn't nkow it existed till I saw it in a thread. What other traditional muffler will fit after the axle in a true dual setup?
Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BrandonDrecksage
you wouldn't loose low end power, someone tested the bassani true dual system that was all 2.5 inch I believe ont wo cars and he didn't loose anything down low, I think it gained power through the entire curve.
I see test like that where the window is moved up a little, in other words the peak power and torque numbers are up but the mid and low range numbers are down at the same comparable Rpm. I have also read a few test where the stock style single pipe outperformed the duals. I put a 3" electric cut out on my car a while back and gained 1 hp and lost four tq, over all I lost power with the cut out wide open. There is also a huge difference between a true dual 2.5" and a 3". Everyones cars and combo will react differently to different exhaust mods but the majority of people are overkilling there exhaust needs and losing power under the curve.

I would also agree on the H pipe over the X pipe, all the H or X pipe does is equalize exhaust pulses in each side of the system. A simple H pipe is all that is needed and it would lower cost and ease the installation/fit...IMO
Old Sep 10, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
an X-pipe is good for peak horsepower. an X-pipe will give you better DYNO NUMBERS, but an H-pipe will give you more real-world power under the curve where you spend most of your time. that statement from the sticky is actually plagued with errors. i've seen dyno graphs showing that H-pipes actually net much more power than X-pipes along the entire RPM range. also H-pipe for sound is also an opinionated statement. not everyone will like the sound of an H-pipe better. "good sound" is not definable. i'm sure there are people out there that think civics with a fart can sound great.

take that sticky with a grain of salt. 9 out of 10 people on this site with true duals have an X-pipe. what do you think is going to get recommended more and praised more? "the best exhaust is the one you have," remember that. very few are honest and actually research this stuff. most just jump on the bandwagon and get whatever everyone else has. look at the new flowmaster single chamber fad. a few months ago, a handful of people on this site had them and most people didn't even know what they were. now everyone wants single chambers. take it all with a grain of salt.
Im going to have to disagree. Show me some numbers, some real hard data. I have done the tests, back-to-back-to-back-to-back with every combo you can think of and the X pipe came out on top, especially in the midrange.
Old Sep 10, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Im going to have to disagree. Show me some numbers, some real hard data. I have done the tests, back-to-back-to-back-to-back with every combo you can think of and the X pipe came out on top, especially in the midrange.
there was a post recently of a mustang being dynoed with an x-pipe and then a swap to an h-pipe. the h-pipe made more power than the x-pipe until ~5000rpms, then the x-pipe made about 3 more or so horsepower peak. the h-pipe clearly made more power overall. granted, it was a mustang, but the results should hold true in most scenarios. i'll try and find the post but the damn search isn't working again.

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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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no whoring.
3" X 2.5 over the passengers side with Flowmaster 1 chambers after the axle. make it universal though so people with stock manifolds can use it as well as people with headers. like make one that bolts up to the stock manifolds in either O/R or catted and one that is a little shorter that bolts up to collectors in either O/R or catted.
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3" H pipe, 3" over the Axle, Single Chamber Flowmasters, I'd buy.
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Asmodeus
3" X, 3" over axle, single chamber flowmasters, I'd buy.
+1 thats exactly what I was thinking
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 06:59 AM
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3" all the way back with bullets
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Snapps
I would be interested 3" x into 2.5" here .. That way I can buy some tips from Firehawk608 ..
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Thanks guys keep your suggestions coming
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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3x3 and offer both bullets and mufflers.
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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3 X 3 with mufflers. Bullets sound like **** in most cases.
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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3x3 with some flowmaster outlaw series
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I'd be interested in 3" to 2.5" over the axle with bullets or mufflers.(You could offer both) But i would prefer it to come without tips.

It all depends on the price of the setup.
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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i chose 3x3.. but you should have an option for 3H3.. h pipes tend to sound better, and though people claim that x pipes add a lot more power, i read an article awhile back that tested the x pipe versus the h pipe, and in all the tests they came out about even.. the x pipe may have been better by 1 hp MAX.. i would rather have a nicer sounding exhause over 1 hp.. oh yea, and bullets or mufflers are cool
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lets get this in gear!!!! i want a reasonably priced TD setup.
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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I would deff. like to see a 3" over the axle. I would pref. bullet mufflers as well
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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Oh and if over the axle is too difficult for you guys I would buy an under the axle system, it really doesnt matter to me as long as it sounds good and flows good.
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BrandonDrecksage
you wouldn't loose low end power, someone tested the bassani true dual system that was all 2.5 inch I believe ont wo cars and he didn't loose anything down low, I think it gained power through the entire curve.
yeah, that was me.
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Originally Posted by farnoush
Oh and if over the axle is too difficult for you guys I would buy an under the axle system, it really doesnt matter to me as long as it sounds good and flows good.



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