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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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Mods in sig, Radix @ 9 psi, 6.0L LQ9.

I've done some searching, and seen a lot of threads stating that the stock MAF is good for awhile, but I'm wondering around what power levels the stock MAF actually becomes a restriction in the intake tubing. I'm contemplating going with the LPE 100mm but I don't want to if it's not going to get me anything.
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When it limits your ability to control the AFR consistently, it's a restriction. In other words, it'll become a tuning restriction before it becomes a substantial physical restriction. You could try switching to a larger MAF (ie Z06 MAF) if you feel it's really a bottle neck. But, I don't think that's the issue unless you're running no filter and a 90/90 setup making 600+hp.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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Hes running a roots type s/c and putting down some serious numbers to move that truck THAT fast, lol.
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I am running a 90mm TB, goal is 12's and 500rwhp, and I'll probably be throwing a 50-75 wet shot at it as well sometime in the near future.

Tuning I'm not worried about, I know the tuning limits of the MAF, just wondering about actual physical airflow restriction.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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damn, i hope i never run into your truck!! impressive! . . . but i haven't heard of stock maf ever being a real issue unless your runnin 9's or somethin . . . and i heard the zo6 is a pain to tune . . or was that the SLP maf?? i forgot, . . good luck
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I've always heard upwards of 600rwhp as a good rule of thumb. I don't back the accuracy of that statement, just voicing what I've heard.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 02TransAm/Batmobile
damn, i hope i never run into your truck!! impressive! . . .
Thanks!


Ok, that's two people I've heard 600 from, so I think I'll be fine with the stocker. Thanks everyone!
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I would ask 300bhpton, he knows just about all there is to know, especially when it comes to restrictions. I expect him to chime in at any minute. I don't see the MAF being a restriction for ya.

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just get a SD tune and not worry about it.
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Originally Posted by Cop Car
just get a SD tune and not worry about it.
That's what I had. I just put a stock MAF in and did some brief tuning and I like it better already. Running MAF only for the time being, till I can dyno tune it and do the stock MAF + SD.
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I never had a problem with the MAF, but i switched to an SD tune mainly over constant problems with my O2's. Most good tuners will tell to stick with the stock MAF. I believe the MAF is one of the last restrictions to worry about in your intake.
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I'm having problems with my O2's also, hoping they go away when I swap headers this week. I'd like to go back to closed loop if possible, but am currently running OL 2bar MAF, and I think this will be fine too if I have to stay OL.
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Contrary to popular belief, upgrading to a larger MAF has two benefits: (1) better throttle response, and (2) ability to support more airflow.

Just like the Throttle body. It's only 75 mm, same as MAF. If you port the throttle body, you get a larger opening, which in turn offers the two advantages I listed above. It just makes sense that the same applies to the MAF, flow wise. Just don't say that too loud around here.
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Stock truck MAF is 85mm. People do seem to be opposed to the larger MAFs though, curious as to why?
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