Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Cant decide on headers.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 12:33 PM
  #1  
HossZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
12 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 510
Likes: 0
From: UCF
Default Cant decide on headers.

I plan on getting headers in a couple of months, but I just cant decide on which ones to get.

Here are my options:

1) Go stainless with ebay xs headers

2) Go coated with pacesetters or edelbrocks

3) Go all out with QTPs, Kooks, or new Edelbrocks stainless.

Last edited by HossZ28; Nov 7, 2006 at 08:17 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 12:49 PM
  #2  
loyolacub68's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 732
Likes: 1
From: San Luis Obispo, CA
Default

I vote for the XS headers, get something that is going to last for a long time that wont hit your wallet so hard.

Then use the extra cash to get true duals
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 12:49 PM
  #3  
Starz T/A 17's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,855
Likes: 0
Default

I would aviod the E bay headers, Ive read a few things on here with them having poor quality with the emission extensions falling off, id go with pacesetters or QTPs if you have extra cash
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 12:55 PM
  #4  
Tainted's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 2
From: Indianapolis
Default

e-bay headers FTW. hotwhipt/a has them loves them and said the install went smooth everything fit nicely and hasnt had any problems

Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
I would aviod the E bay headers, Ive read a few things on here with them having poor quality with the emission extensions falling off, id go with pacesetters or QTPs if you have extra cash
even top quality headers have this problem. its just such a small tube the least little thing will break them off.

Kooks, if the guy wants to fork out over a grand for headers alone he can have at it
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 12:55 PM
  #5  
joblo1978's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,220
Likes: 0
From: Colorado Springs
Default

Why not Kooks?
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:06 PM
  #6  
lastcall190's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,656
Likes: 4
From: NJ
Default

Pacesetters and TSP TDs... ~800 said and done and one hell of a setup (IMO).
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:09 PM
  #7  
1999BlueTA's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 343
Likes: 3
From: Orlando, FL
Default

Another vote for the ebay headers they are stainless, good quality, nothing but good things have been said about them, and why get coated when you could have stainless.

Last edited by 1999BlueTA; Nov 7, 2006 at 04:03 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:11 PM
  #8  
sdbrown84's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 907
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix, AZ
Default

Happy with my QTP purchase except the banging on the K-member problem. Coated Pacesetters are great to save cash, but QTP stainless saves me the worry.

Problem is my wallet still hurts...
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

10 Reasons Daily Driving a Swap Project SUCKS! (& 1 Reason to Do It Anyway)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-2

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-9

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:17 PM
  #9  
Disturbed Bird's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,562
Likes: 0
From: Savannah, GA
Default

well if u want i have a set oh flp headers with 2 cats and 2 test pipes to replace the cats if u want them also have slp loudmouth getting a new setup so im selling them 400 for both if u want it
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:31 PM
  #10  
7camaro7's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 910
Likes: 0
From: Tennessee
Default

How long does it take to unstall exhaust manifolds and install a new set of long tubes? and how much does it usually cost?
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:46 PM
  #11  
Tainted's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 2
From: Indianapolis
Default

Originally Posted by 7camaro7
How long does it take to unstall exhaust manifolds and install a new set of long tubes? and how much does it usually cost?
2-12 hours depending on how fast and stupid you are. average cost is around 500
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:50 PM
  #12  
mike#9's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,197
Likes: 0
From: Apopka, Fl
Default

QTP or Kooks!
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:17 PM
  #13  
blackbirdls1's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 682
Likes: 4
From: Oviedo, FL
Default

Last call 190, wow your car sounds like what I want. Did you install them yourself?
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 03:07 PM
  #14  
SweeTbone's Avatar
11 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,545
Likes: 7
From: Toledo, OH
Default

Go with Kooks. Whoever is paying "over a grand for headers alone" is getting ripped off. No way are Kooks that much. Bottom line is get what you pay for. Kooks isn't one of the top names because that have a poor product or shitty customer service. I'd recommend Kooks and if not them then QTP. With QTPs you may have to do Poly Motor Mounts to stop the Y-pipe banging. Kooks LT and Catted Y/ORY will fit just like stock. Clearence will be the same if not better.

Search this forum (External Engine) for QTP, Kooks and Pacesetters. There are a lot of POLLS, threads and basic info that will help you out.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 03:30 PM
  #15  
nokeman's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,504
Likes: 0
From: Northern VA
Default

Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
I would aviod the E bay headers, Ive read a few things on here with them having poor quality with the emission extensions falling off, id go with pacesetters or QTPs if you have extra cash
Not only is that a common problem with all headers with these emissions fittings, if not handled with care, but...

...XS is comming out with a "race style" version of thier headers. I have the origional headers and the quality is INCREDIBLE. I have heard nothing but good things about these, minus some minor fitment issues that ALL headers brands have. Plus they are stainless and will last forever. So my vote goes for the XS stainless steel headers...
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 03:36 PM
  #16  
Louie83's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,844
Likes: 0
From: Dayton, OH
Default

Most people don't realize that the cheaper Edelbrocks (the ones that are under $400) are the ti-tech coating ones with a weld-on merge. A lot of people experience rust with this system.

I'd get Pacesetter, Kooks, or QTP.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 03:39 PM
  #17  
lsx24's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (45)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,556
Likes: 0
From: NC
Default

Originally Posted by Disturbed Bird
well if u want i have a set oh flp headers with 2 cats and 2 test pipes to replace the cats if u want them also have slp loudmouth getting a new setup so im selling them 400 for both if u want it
Wow that's a killer deal

I'd go coated pacesetters and true duals. The few hp you're leaving on the table will be overcome by a good flowing system.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 03:39 PM
  #18  
Tainted's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 2
From: Indianapolis
Default

Originally Posted by nokeman
Not only is that a common problem with all headers with these emissions fittings, if not handled with care, but...

...XS is comming out with a "race style" version of thier headers. I have the origional headers and the quality is INCREDIBLE. I have heard nothing but good things about these, minus some minor fitment issues that ALL headers brands have. Plus they are stainless and will last forever. So my vote goes for the XS stainless steel headers...
thanks you
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 03:40 PM
  #19  
FireSilverLullaby's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,231
Likes: 0
From: Chesapeake,va and Charlotte,NC
Default

I would go with stainless ebay headers too.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 03:46 PM
  #20  
lastcall190's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,656
Likes: 4
From: NJ
Default

Originally Posted by blackbirdls1
Last call 190, wow your car sounds like what I want. Did you install them yourself?
Thanks, yea I did the install myself. Very straightforward (had done a set previously on my friends 02, QTPs...), in fact we found the pacesetters EASIER to install (mostly because they are a "shorter" longtube, meaning the collector isn't as long The only hangup was the dipstick, ****** would NOT wanna come out of the pan, if not for that, would've been done inside of 5hrs... it took 12. So according the formula above me that puts me at pretty stupid The duals were "easy" meaning to bolt 'em up, it's pretty straightforward, an extra set of hands is IMO an absolute MUST. Getting them to tuck JUST RIGHT is what takes the most time. User "DirtyJohn" has an AWESOME writeup for the duals, and I used that. If you got any other questions just PM me, I'll be home for Thanksgiving if you want another vid of the car for some decision making purposes Good luck

-J
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:52 PM.

story-0
10 Reasons Daily Driving a Swap Project SUCKS! (& 1 Reason to Do It Anyway)

Slideshow: 10 reasons daily-driving a swap project might not be for you. Or is it?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-17 09:39:05


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 14:55:56


VIEW MORE
story-2
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-18 10:26:23


VIEW MORE
story-3
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-4
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-5
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-6
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-7
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE