Silver02TA

iTrader: (6)

well i just cleaned mine today actually and it had a **** load of drit in it so it must be doing something right... and there was no grime, oil, or dirt past it (in the MAF screen or lid)

Quickin

Thats because all the dirt that gets past it, the little stuff, over time, goes right into your engine and has a field day with your rings.


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jam01

so because you dont know how to oil the filter properly, or install it. it sucks! wow you must be a scientist, sorry to knock your thread but mine works great. and im not saying there is anything wrong with paper filters either. i just choose to use something that i know works better. and that is after owning about 15. and no not for the same car. ive owned well over 60 vehicles which i still own 5, and they all have k&n's. and im almost positive ive been using them before you were born.

Quickin

The only piece of information you are clueless about is the debris that gets by your piece of **** K & N. And noone is saying the engine will explode by using them, but there is no doubt in any intelligent persons mind that it will wear the rings more than if you were to use a paper filter....PERIOD.

It doesn't take a "scientist" to know that if people are picking up tiny bits of power by using a K & N over a paper filter, that MORE air is getting into the engines' cylinders, because after all an internal combustion engine is essentially an air pump. Therefore, it only takes the mental capacity of a retarded monkey on drugs that if more air is getting through, small pieces of debris will too. The small pieces that a paper filter WILL stop, resulting in a tiny loss of power, but will, without a doubt, yield better engine protection over a given time period.

And if you were using them before I was born than you're pretty old, because I'm 37, and the resultant of your age coupled with your use of these crappy filters guarantees us one thing......YOU have been losing more compression per year of human life than me, so far.



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pHEnomIC

iTrader: (14)

Maybe if you followed directions and properly cleaned and oiled it you wouldn't have problems. It catches plenty of dirt when it is used properly. And those that get oil on the maf, you used too much oil.

mvvette97

iTrader: (18)

I switched to the Accel Cool Blue. I read that it filters smaller particles so I thought I would give it a try. I held the Accel and the K&N both up to a light when they were both clean and you can see that the Accel would filter better than the K&N. The Accel has smaller holes through it. I like it so far.

ZL1Killa

iTrader: (17)

yack yakc blah blah blah yak yac......
do your self (too everyone) a favor and everyone just think which filter to buy and buy it... if you don't like it .. buy a different one next time you have a dirty filter..
and end this

JohnnyC

K&N has been around for a long time, and has been used in many racing applications. I have to believe that there is some independent test data out there to prove how effective of a filter it really is. The link below shows some test data, but I am not sure as to how valid it is. I have had no problems with my K&N filter, nor have I seen any great performance gains over paper filters. I say both are probably O.K. if used and maintained properly. In a perfect world, everyone would install the filter correctly and maintain it correctly. I doubt we all live in a perfect world, so the argument rages on...

http://www.durangoclub.com/faq/Performance.html

luxexpress1

I have run my K & N for about five years and 55,000+ miles with no problems. I clean and oil it each spring and have not noticed any build up on my MAF or throttle body. Since I have a FTRA type set up, I consider it cheap insurance in case I hit a puddle or drive in the rain. BTW, it seems to flow well enough for me to run high elevens, bolt on only, so I have no complaints.

brad8266

iTrader: (23)

Who here said it will blow your motor anyway?

brad8266

iTrader: (23)

Any of you that really think your air filter is yielding you any 1/4 mile gains must be clueless.

DadsZ28

iTrader: (1)

I must be clueless then along with many others. I made back to back runs and picked up a .11 on the same 60 ft. times and a little over 1 mph. I do have a holley powershot which is based on the same principle as the k&n. Even though i can see where people have said they have had problems with them and over oiling them it did net me some gains in my case. As far as contaminating the internals of the engine i would like to see proof.

JDJP

iTrader: (2)

Look at the bold

Bro, I don't mean to be rude, but really you sound like an idiot.
If you want to tell people you think K&N filters suck for whatever reason you have (what reason is that?) thats fine, but do some tests, and show us how bad it is. Like said before K&N has been around for a long time, and Im sure plenty of tests have been done on them, and they don't seem to be out of business.
Come back and tell us how much K&N suck when you have some solid proof.

JD

cobrakiller221

iTrader: (12)

I know why my k&n sucked... becuase it would not seal... My paper filter does..

Cory1970

iTrader: (2)

I pray this is a total joke....

BlackHawk T/A

iTrader: (3)

No problems with my Holley Powershot.

The people complaining about sealing problems on here seem to all be running the K&N.

NiCks Ws6

ditching my K&N, it just seems like it can cause 2 many problem. where the paper just has to be changed alot more often.

Quickin

It might give you a small gain because if more air is getting through, you should make more power, but the DIRT is also getti ng through.


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Quickin

Look at the bold....you need to read and comprehend the whole damn post.

You wanted tests, thats a ******* test you moron. A real road race car that did just as I said. The K&N was letting more dirt and road debris in, when they stuck a paper filter in there with the 3rd brand new engine they had a good compression check at the end of the race. A REAL test. Plus, dirt would get all over the dab of grease with the K&N, NOT THE PAPER FILTER.

Did you not read what I posted and just started opening your pie-hole? WTF!!!!

And K&N is still in business because people like you and many other buy into their horseshit about being better. Gains, maybe, more dirt getting through.....GUARUN-******-TEED.


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02_LS1

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