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Old 03-01-2007, 10:33 PM
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Mine does the same thing after the intake swap. I know its a leak. The intake I bought came with the brake booster hose and it had a different plastic part on it and thats what causes the leak in mine because the one on mine has a in and out connector and the new intake actually has a T connector w/one pointing out with no cap on it. Obviously causing the leak there!
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i used the brake booster line that was on my car b4... i cant find any leak.... i guess ill look into the battery
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Mine's been doing the same thing after my last tune (both not coming down untill I get to a stop and hanging after I rev while stopped and moving). Also becomes quite a bit worse when AC is turned on (I barely use it now because it wants to stall so much with the AC on from a stop and almost feels dead). Assuming this is a tuning problem only, could it be fixed by a tuner (other than the original one) without affecting the performance of the tune? I think the current tune is great with AC off, it's just the formentioned problems I'd like to get rid of. Thank you!
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i think i might have an idea what it is.. i was just reading something about the idle, and drilling a hole into the blade of the throttle body, and i realized, i put on a p&p throttle body, and the hole was epoxied... can this be causing this>????
Old 03-02-2007, 01:12 AM
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In order for the tb to have the affects that you are having, the only thing i can think of is that maybe you forgot to put the small o-ring under the iac sensor when you installed the sensors. I have had a couple people forget to put them in and it casuses a vacume leak. If the epoxy wasnt drilled out enough then you would have the oposite affect, the car would idle low. You definetly have a vacume leak.
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Originally Posted by GTObsessor
Mine's been doing the same thing after my last tune (both not coming down untill I get to a stop and hanging after I rev while stopped and moving). Also becomes quite a bit worse when AC is turned on (I barely use it now because it wants to stall so much with the AC on from a stop and almost feels dead). Assuming this is a tuning problem only, could it be fixed by a tuner (other than the original one) without affecting the performance of the tune? I think the current tune is great with AC off, it's just the formentioned problems I'd like to get rid of. Thank you!
Drive-ability and performance are seperate (for the most part) when tuning. Someone who know's their software and what their doing can help reduce your problems. The only issue there is, most "professional" tuners focus way more on the performance side and not enough on the drive-ability side. So, I'd check into finding someone near you that has their own software and knows what they're doing. If they had questions, they could always pop in the PCM section and we'll get 'em answered.
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Originally Posted by Smokin87TA
In order for the tb to have the affects that you are having, the only thing i can think of is that maybe you forgot to put the small o-ring under the iac sensor when you installed the sensors. I have had a couple people forget to put them in and it casuses a vacume leak. If the epoxy wasnt drilled out enough then you would have the oposite affect, the car would idle low. You definetly have a vacume leak.


Mine had hanging idle, and it surged pretty bad when I forgot that O-ring.
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which sensor, the upper or lower one?
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Originally Posted by 99kamarokid
which sensor, the upper or lower one?
The IAC sits on top of the TB. The lower one is the throttle position sensor because it's reading the position of the throttle body blade.
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alright.. thanks to everyone who has responded.... ill get to looking..
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What did you find out about this i am interested!
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nothing so far... i havnt had time to check into it, but as soon as i get to my dads house ill figure it out and let the whooole site know, haha
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Originally Posted by SSpdDmon
The PCM. There are two tables that add airflow that can throw off idle. Throttle cracker and throttle follower. If you revs don't come down fast enough right after you get off the gas and put the clutch in (or after you rev the engine), then it's a problem with your throttle follower settings in the PCM. If you're coasting along with the clutch in and the idle will not drop until you come to a stop, that's the throttle cracker table. Chances are though, this is an issue with unmetered air entering the engine (ie vacuum leak) since you're still on the stock cam.
wow that's great information! both circumstances happen with my car, after I got it tuned. however, what if i'm coasting along with the clutch in, and the idle stays high AND bounces between 1400 and 1900 until i come to a stop?
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Originally Posted by sdm1234
wow that's great information! both circumstances happen with my car, after I got it tuned. however, what if i'm coasting along with the clutch in, and the idle stays high AND bounces between 1400 and 1900 until i come to a stop?
I'm not sure about LT1's. But if it were an LS1, I'd say those tables need adjusting in your tune. There's also a couple tables related to idle learning and when/how much the IAC is supposed to assist. On cam'd cars, you can cure this idle hunting behavior by increasing the delay a little and reducing the IAC's influence a little too. Every car's going to be a little different. Just takes a little 'tweaking' to get it right.
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I've got the same problem, can't wait to see what comes of this.



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