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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 01:52 AM
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i got a 13.76 out of my stock a4 camaro. i'm wondering if i can get some 12's out of it with bolt-ons only. if so what bolt-ons do i need.
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It's very easy, especially with an auto car. Enough boltons, tuning, big stall, suspension, and tires will get you into the 11's, but that's a tough one. I'd say a stall and some sticky tires could get you there pretty easy.

One of our other mods (SUX2BU) has gone 11.0 with boltons, but his car is gutted and weighs in at like 2800lbs lol.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 02:08 AM
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im looking for a good setup for consistent 12's im thinking
lt + exhaust combo (undecided on what brand)
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just for starters what numbers can i expect and what else can i do
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 02:13 AM
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12's is very easy. Keep the money you want to waste on the Hypertech and put it towards a convertor. A lid, LT's, ORY, catback and stall will easily get you there. Add gears and sticky tires and you may go high 11's.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 02:31 AM
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Forget about the Hypertech, invest that in something else. Where do you live? You can probably get a badass tune for a little more than the Hypertech costs.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 02:59 AM
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i live in monroe, louisiana. i was also thinking of getting true duals since i dont have an emmissions requirement will that help at all. i think i like the sound of the magnaflow exhaust best
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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12's shouldn't be any problem. My car (99 formula, M6) went 12.53 with only a lid, headers, and an X-pipe. All on shitty dayton all season tires. With the A4, a decent stall, headers, and a lid should get you into the 12's no problem.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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go ahead and get your full exhaust setup and intake setup........theres plenty of people in LA that can hook you up with a tune.....even before a stall, with a good bit of bolt ons, and some tires....you can be in the high 12s
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Originally Posted by fbodymaniac
i got a 13.76 out of my stock a4 camaro. i'm wondering if i can get some 12's out of it with bolt-ons only. if so what bolt-ons do i need.
ill let you know when the track up here opens...i have every "best" bolt on available except for an underdrive pully and 315 drag radials...i hope to get a real low 12 or even break 11s...
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I ran 12.9 with Lid, KN filter, and a Flowmaster muffler. Mine is a M6. That was on the original Goodyear F-1's. Local track..Mission Raceway...Sea Level..[well --30 ft] Car had maybe 10thou on it. [miles]
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I just went 12.51 at 112 today on street tires with bolt on's. It is very possible.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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12.42 last wednesday @ 114
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 12:24 AM
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so in what order should i start modding or does it matter
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 01:36 AM
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what i did...

lid, cutout & drag radials - 13.1 = 317hp
headers, !cats, ory pipe - 13.1 (bad 60 ft) = ? hp (no dyno)
true duals, x pipe, dumps + better driving - 12.4 = 350 hp
asp pulley - 12.3 = 360 hp

i've seen autos doing 12.9 on drs...good luck
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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If you have an 01 or 02 better intake and exhaust, start with lid, good air filter, and exhaust. I live in FL. no cats required, so i just went with bassani ORY pipe, and cutout, no need for headers unless you plan on cam and or heads in future. With 275/17 nittos I went 12.42 @ 113 w/ 1.89 60', have M6 stock clutch, so you will need converter and get better 60' with Auto.
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You can do it no prob. My current ride clicked off 12.9s stock, with sub-par 2.0xx 60fts. With most bolt-ons it went 12.30s.

Stalled autos are quick at the track. I would get a good verter, longtubes, true-duals or a good flowing catback, lid, sticky tires, port your TB, a tune, and you'll be moving pretty good.
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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no need for headers unless you plan on cam and or heads in future.
I disagree. There's not one place on this entire forum that states Longtube's aren't worth the money with out a head/cam package. IMO, they should be one of your first mods after a catback, lid...etc.
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I disagree. There's not one place on this entire forum that states Longtube's aren't worth the money with out a head/cam package. IMO, they should be one of your first mods after a catback, lid...etc.
I agree.
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Originally Posted by fbodymaniac
i got a 13.76 out of my stock a4 camaro. i'm wondering if i can get some 12's out of it with bolt-ons only. if so what bolt-ons do i need.
You sure can run in the 12's with a bolton automatic. I would work on the suspension first, then gears such as 3:73's and a nice convertor such as a vig 3200. Nice for the street and strip. I can run in the 11.70's in nice weather at Twin City Drag in Monroe, Louisiana, right in your backyard. I hope you make your quest.
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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All you need is lid,headers,stall. Check sig for times.
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