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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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as many of you may know by reading some of my posts...im getting rid of my loudmouth now that i have lt's and ory. i want something quiet at idle with some grunt at wot. i have been seriously considering a hooker catback. today, i was playin on texas-speed.com today and i noticed how cheap i could get true duals for. I already did a search AND listened on ls1sounds.com but i want to know from the guys who have them, how do you like them? my main concern is ground clearance. how low do the pipes hang? i live in pa and the roads suck so they need to tuck underneath there pretty good. is it relatively quiet at idle? enough so that my pesky, no good, tree hugging, civic driving neighbors wont call the cops on me for starting my car? my mods are in my sig if that helps. and pics would be nice
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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I went with the hooker and love it. I would like TD's but for a cam+ bolt on car TS's would be very loud in my opinion. I am very happy with my exhaust, if you want it louder you could always put a e-cut out in.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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If you take your time when installing them they can tuck up nicely. I don't have any clearance pictures but I can easily stick a soda can under the exhaust (stock ride height). My car is pretty loud @ idle on cold starts but once it warms up the idle calms down significantly. If I had to guess yours will probably be pretty loud since you have a cam.

Overall, I'm extremely pleased with my duals. I'll probably never go back to a y-pipe/CB setup again.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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I had the TSP ORY and now the TSP true-duals. The y-pipe actually hung lower than the x. If it werent for incorporating single chamber flowmasters into the system, it would have more clearance than the y setup.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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I daily drive mine with a big nasty can, love the sound, have no clearance issues and I'm lowered too. Very happy with the product. I recommend the Sweet Thunder muffler option.

As for neighbors bitching, I would and have told mine, when they start making payments for me then they can bitch. want. Until then, they should and will shut the **** up and enjoy the sound of freedom.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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only thing im worried about is if they DO call the cops....and they check for cats, im fucked as of right now. i think im gonna put carsound cats on the true dual setup if i get it. or i might just get the hooker catback and leave the ory.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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anyone have a vid at idle? especially if your mods are similar to mine
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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At idle its not really that loud. I love the sound of mine and havent been messed with by the man as of yet. There is a sticky with a bunch of pics.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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yea i read through the sticky but i was just curious to hear it at idle with a cam. ls1sounds doesnt have many that are simialar to mine with td's
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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What size cam is it that your runnin? If it has a decent duration its probably going to attract more attention than you want. But if it is ran out the back it may be acceptable.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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duration 214/230
lift is .601/.630
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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It's hard to say with a cam, but with bolt-ons, any full exhaust set-up with cats would be perfect. Throw in some cut-outs before the cats if you like (I would.)
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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It's hard to say with a cam, but with bolt-ons, any full exhaust set-up with cats would be perfect. Throw in some cut-outs before the cats if you like (I would.)

i dont think i'd really need to put cats on it if i got the hooker catback. from what i've heard, they're pretty tame at idle. thats my main concern, how loud it is at idle. i still want SOME grunt from the mid-upper rpm range
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Thats a big cam, a dumped exhaust would be some trouble.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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eh, maybe ill get it and just add cats. a lot of people say its a "baby" cam because the intake duration is so small....i think its ok though
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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i love my TSP's. Saturday we adjusted the turn downs and x pipe for more clearance, i was scraping everything with my eibachs but now i have more clearance than i did at stock height. PM me if you want to see video.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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Dont rule out the bassani kit though, or if you know anyone at an a reputable exhaust shop go there and see what they have to offer. I'd love to hear a clip of what your car sounds like with the exhaust you have now and the new exhaust.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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well you CAN hear a clip of the exhaust i have now...


these clips are before the tune though. i havent got one with the car tuned yet


http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v6...Picture005.flv

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v6...Picture007.flv


i dont think i wanna go with the bassani...from what i've seen and heard so far, i want the tsp
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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It sounds like you already have your mind set on them. I cant tell you how its going to sound with a cam like you have. Mine isn't too loud with a stock cam. The ground clearance that I have is enough to go over some decent size speed bumps. I haven't scraped on anything yet. In the video your car looked like it was raised up in the rear more so then mine.

Another thing is when you are installing the exhaust if you do it on the ground or a drive on lift then you will be able to tuck it up more. But once it goes onto a lift where the suspension hangs, then the torque arm will have a ton of pressure on the exhaust. I did mine on a lift where the suspension hangs and I still have enough ground clearance. I just took a tranny jack with a block of wood and jacked it up until it touched the torque arm.

P.S. that **** sounds sweet as it is!
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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thanx man, its too loud and raspy for me. i like it but i cant handle it drivin everyday. i think the cam just really makes it a lot worse with the loudmouth.
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