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Apr 26, 2007 | 02:23 AM

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Installing Race Style Long tubes

Hey guys I just got some new Race Style(no emissions) long tubes for my '02 Z28 and I should be installing them some time next month. Anyways I will have to remove my AIR system and I wont be getting a tune anytime soon so Im wondering will the car run ok w/o deleting it from the computer when I remove it? Obviously an SES light will be set off but Im just wondering if it will effect drivability in anyway.

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Apr 26, 2007 | 07:00 AM

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I removed my AIR with pacesetter race style headers and have not deleted the code no problems here just a SES light.

Apr 26, 2007 | 07:58 AM

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removal of AIR and EGR will have no affect on the running condition of your car.

check out page 11 of the website in my sig for header install guide

Apr 26, 2007 | 10:39 AM

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yea no problems here, i took out all emissions and now have no rear 02s....just throws the codes but runs great

Apr 26, 2007 | 10:51 AM

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Hasn't had any effect on the drivability of mine, just an SES light (as has been previously stated)

Apr 26, 2007 | 11:24 AM

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My gas mileage sux though!!!no my DD, and it runs rich!!hate that black sut on the pipes!

Apr 26, 2007 | 04:30 PM

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thanks guys exactly what I wanted to hear, b/c I dont have the money for a tune right now but I have gotta get some headers on my car lol

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Apr 26, 2007 | 04:40 PM

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my car is running rich to begin with so I probably won't have many problems with my LT's... going on this tuesday

Apr 26, 2007 | 05:00 PM

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How would you know If the car is running rich? Removing AIR/EGR won't effect gas mileage?

Apr 26, 2007 | 06:44 PM

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How would you know If the car is running rich? Removing AIR/EGR won't effect gas mileage?

Smell and black smoke are both good indications.

Apr 26, 2007 | 08:42 PM

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Will I throw any codes if I get LT's with emissions?

Apr 26, 2007 | 08:58 PM

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Will I throw any codes if I get LT's with emissions?

Not necessarily, but I believe it's more likely. Rear O2s are so far downstream, I think there's a greater likelihood because of that. Also you'll need to make or buy some kind of restrictor plate for the AIR system to prevent the valve from getting burned up...something like that. The best bet is probably to remove everything (AIR, EGR, rear O2s) and have the codes removed with a quick tune. I'm having Speed Inc. do mine, it's relatively cheap, much less than a full tune. The engine will also be much neater, and you shave off a few pounds too.

Apr 26, 2007 | 10:17 PM

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How would you know If the car is running rich? Removing AIR/EGR won't effect gas mileage?

mine backfired a lot and 98% of it was cured when I took the AIR off.
but my mileage had been suffering for awhile before that as well so I knew it was time to remove

Apr 27, 2007 | 01:47 PM

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Will I throw any codes if I get LT's with emissions?

Yes you will throw codes cause you will only be using the front o2 sensors!
You will no longer be using the rear o2's!!
After your install, go to autozone and have'em check the codes and verify that they are the o2 sensors throwing the ses codes! only!
If your ses light starts to blink then you have a miss fire,and check you plugs and wires(i forgot to connect the #8 cyl).
goodluck!

Apr 29, 2007 | 12:15 PM

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He'll need extensions for the O2 sensors on the headers won't he? Maybe I'm thinking about the cats...

Apr 29, 2007 | 08:35 PM

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I already got bosch 13111's, this isnt my first header install on an F-body just the first time I will be deleting any emissions equipment besides the cats.....