Burger Motorsports Ram Air
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Burger Motorsports Ram Air
This is a take on the old LS1.COM "cold air" setup. I used dual 6" hoses to feed from the facia vent holes, right up in to the air box via FTRA. It cost around $20, took 2hrs from start to finish, and probably works as well or better than the FTRA. Here are a few snapshots of the setup.
<img src="http://members.aol.com/terencevv/mycars/ra1.jpg" alt="" />
<img src="http://members.aol.com/terencevv/mycars/ra2.jpg" alt="" />
<img src="http://members.aol.com/terencevv/mycars/ra3.jpg" alt="" />
<img src="http://members.aol.com/terencevv/mycars/ra4.jpg" alt="" />
The final product is hard to see as I wrapped it up in black duct tape / painted it black. It looks pretty clean. I don't believe that these ram air setups really do much for even the high hp cars like mine, but with this setup it was only $20 to find out, and I didn't have to move my huge trans cooler. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<small>[ April 30, 2002, 01:33 AM: Message edited by: Terry Burger ]</small>
<img src="http://members.aol.com/terencevv/mycars/ra1.jpg" alt="" />
<img src="http://members.aol.com/terencevv/mycars/ra2.jpg" alt="" />
<img src="http://members.aol.com/terencevv/mycars/ra3.jpg" alt="" />
<img src="http://members.aol.com/terencevv/mycars/ra4.jpg" alt="" />
The final product is hard to see as I wrapped it up in black duct tape / painted it black. It looks pretty clean. I don't believe that these ram air setups really do much for even the high hp cars like mine, but with this setup it was only $20 to find out, and I didn't have to move my huge trans cooler. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<small>[ April 30, 2002, 01:33 AM: Message edited by: Terry Burger ]</small>
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Looks good. Without the front bumper, the grill holes sure give you a nice straight shot of cool air to the airbox. I'm curious to see how it works out for you. I'm going to use the same flex tubing, but route it into an airbox with the dry ice & electric motor. Who knows, it might actually work.
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That second picture looks like the "wooly mammoth tusks" mod. he he But seriusly, I'm interested to see if you find any gains.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jantzer98SS:
<strong> into an airbox with the dry ice & electric motor. Who knows, it might actually work.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What!? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> Sounds interesting, explain. Are you trying to use super-cooled air to get a denser charge? Sounds like a you'll have a Rube Goldberg contraption in the limited space between the front of your car and the MAF. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
<strong> into an airbox with the dry ice & electric motor. Who knows, it might actually work.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What!? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> Sounds interesting, explain. Are you trying to use super-cooled air to get a denser charge? Sounds like a you'll have a Rube Goldberg contraption in the limited space between the front of your car and the MAF. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
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Re: Burger Motorsports Ram Air
Here is another pic from the front in the light:
<img src="http://members.aol.com/terencevv/mycars/ra5.jpg" alt="" />
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LOL! Raughammer has had that setup for over a year now. It looks pretty ghetto and we tease him about the appearance of it (hehe).
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It sure beats spending $160 + 4hrs labor on a FTRA, from my point of view. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> I don't expect much from it, but every little bit helps.
<img src="http://members.aol.com/terencevv/mycars/ra5.jpg" alt="" />
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LOL! Raughammer has had that setup for over a year now. It looks pretty ghetto and we tease him about the appearance of it (hehe).
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It sure beats spending $160 + 4hrs labor on a FTRA, from my point of view. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> I don't expect much from it, but every little bit helps.
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Terry you should put a nice GW screen or something over the front to hide the gaping nostrils. Interested to hear how it works.
Obviously this isnt for those with bumper supports <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Obviously this isnt for those with bumper supports <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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I could put the stock black insert back in, and probably will. I just left it out for a photo shoot. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>BTW what is the area of the FTRA opening. I am guessing around (3"x18") 54"^2? My setup comes in right at 56"^2.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not sure what FTRA size is. I know is can't be by 18 because mine is at 14.5 and is just about side to side of the air box (minus 1/4 inch). I'm also not sure that it can be by 3 inches either...I made mine the absolute biggest I could and still fit with my trans cooler. I made mine from the ground up. It came in at 2 inches by 14.5 inches.
<strong>BTW what is the area of the FTRA opening. I am guessing around (3"x18") 54"^2? My setup comes in right at 56"^2.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not sure what FTRA size is. I know is can't be by 18 because mine is at 14.5 and is just about side to side of the air box (minus 1/4 inch). I'm also not sure that it can be by 3 inches either...I made mine the absolute biggest I could and still fit with my trans cooler. I made mine from the ground up. It came in at 2 inches by 14.5 inches.
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Oh sorry Terry I thought you were talking about the place it enters the air box. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" /> My scoop is about 17 inches by 6 inches at the mouth. iIn the very back of the openning at the place it looks like it does a 90 degree up. I put a peice of rolled medal so it does not make a 90 degree turn but ther air goes up a curve.
<small>[ April 30, 2002, 01:51 PM: Message edited by: 2000 Camaro SS ]</small>
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It's such a good idea I'm sure others have done it before. If the quickest 346ci NA guy on the board is running it, it must be worth something. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Ghetto or not there is no doubt that will help route cool air in.
I give it a thumbs up. Nothing wrong with function over form.
A nice grill over the front to protect from sucking in leaves/rocks/etc... and your set.
<small>[ April 30, 2002, 12:15 PM: Message edited by: Blackbird ]</small>
I give it a thumbs up. Nothing wrong with function over form.
A nice grill over the front to protect from sucking in leaves/rocks/etc... and your set.
<small>[ April 30, 2002, 12:15 PM: Message edited by: Blackbird ]</small>
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>Why not just remove the front facia completely and leave it off? That way it would match your removed hatch. Perhaps a cardboard front end? LOL!
Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
<strong>Why not just remove the front facia completely and leave it off? That way it would match your removed hatch. Perhaps a cardboard front end? LOL!
Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
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That setup looks like it would block a lot of air from the radiator. 95 degree plus Houston weather might cause overheating problem!