XS headers
Well the first thing I would like everyone to notice is that hairydsm just joined tech today and this is his first and only post and he decide to make his very first post in my thread and try and bash everything that anyone has said here all in one post.
Sounds to me like someone out there is getting a little nervous about someone offering a higher quality products and a far cheaper price than what anyone else has.
We started our venture with SSautochrome to provide a high quality product at a reasonable price to LS owners. We took what SSautochrome was making and have made our own design changes to the headers and y. These revised versions will be our own product know as LPP headers and y and will only be sold by us.
FYI the headers are 100% 321 stainless steel. Flanges, pipes and collectors. And the Y is 100% 321 stainless steel also.
SSautochrome chose on there own to stop selling on ebay. All the other companies you have quoted are other companies that have contracted with SSautochome to sell their products. It's no different than what a company like Kooks does. They manufacture a product that they sell but they also wholesale their product to dozens of other companies to sell also. But like I said the new redesigned headers and y are what we contracted with SSautochrome to make for us and we are the only one's that will be selling our headers and y's.
Sounds to me like someone out there is getting a little nervous about someone offering a higher quality products and a far cheaper price than what anyone else has.
We started our venture with SSautochrome to provide a high quality product at a reasonable price to LS owners. We took what SSautochrome was making and have made our own design changes to the headers and y. These revised versions will be our own product know as LPP headers and y and will only be sold by us.
FYI the headers are 100% 321 stainless steel. Flanges, pipes and collectors. And the Y is 100% 321 stainless steel also.
SSautochrome chose on there own to stop selling on ebay. All the other companies you have quoted are other companies that have contracted with SSautochome to sell their products. It's no different than what a company like Kooks does. They manufacture a product that they sell but they also wholesale their product to dozens of other companies to sell also. But like I said the new redesigned headers and y are what we contracted with SSautochrome to make for us and we are the only one's that will be selling our headers and y's.
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I didn't register to "bash" you. I'm in here only posting factual data and I have backed it all up. If you take that as bashing, then I publicly apologize and you are taking it all wrong.
If you're going to make a bold statement like that, you really had better back it up with something other than what you've been told by him. So please, tell me more of this 'story'. I know the real reason they got banned, so please tell me your story and I will then share the truth and back it up with factual evidence, again.
Ah, the power of the internet. These are not companies. These are eBay names!
1. These names are all registered on Ebay right around the time that ssautochrome got banned.
2. They're all the same products.
3. Many same pictures.
4. The pictures are all hosted on the ssautochrome server.
Now you're really going to tell me it's not the Tony/DeeDee team back on eBay selling stuff? It's all right there in front of your eyes man.
He sells them on his website though? Do you honestly believe he's going to revise the product for you and not change what he sells? You think there's going to be two versions produced and shipped to him? I have some bad news for you if you think that is how it's going to work.
If you're going to make a bold statement like that, you really had better back it up with something other than what you've been told by him. So please, tell me more of this 'story'. I know the real reason they got banned, so please tell me your story and I will then share the truth and back it up with factual evidence, again.
All the other companies you have quoted are other companies that have contracted with SSautochome to sell their products. It's no different than what a company like Kooks does. They manufacture a product that they sell but they also wholesale their product to dozens of other companies to sell also.
1. These names are all registered on Ebay right around the time that ssautochrome got banned.
2. They're all the same products.
3. Many same pictures.
4. The pictures are all hosted on the ssautochrome server.
Now you're really going to tell me it's not the Tony/DeeDee team back on eBay selling stuff? It's all right there in front of your eyes man.
He sells them on his website though? Do you honestly believe he's going to revise the product for you and not change what he sells? You think there's going to be two versions produced and shipped to him? I have some bad news for you if you think that is how it's going to work.
I dont care if this guy has 100 different guys in Santa suits selling these things at the mall, and 1000 penguins chained to welders in the middle of the Arctic circle manufacturing them, as long as they are cheaper than the other SS headers, and provide reasonable quality, I will be buying them.
Stop trolling.
Stop trolling.
Why?
Because the only reason you joined this board was to spread fear and undermine a sponsors credibility. Your only goal is to spread propaganda.
You have no experience with the headers' quality or materials, and you have no reason to be on this board.
That is the definition of a troll, so stop trolling.
Please return to your local DSM board.
Because the only reason you joined this board was to spread fear and undermine a sponsors credibility. Your only goal is to spread propaganda.
You have no experience with the headers' quality or materials, and you have no reason to be on this board.
That is the definition of a troll, so stop trolling.
Please return to your local DSM board.
Who gives a **** if they are XS, Ebay, LLP, OBX or what the hell ever. I bought a set of these a while back and haven't put them on yet. They look really good and "hopefully" I won't have the driver side problem.
It's business. The man is here to make money. If most people knew the mark up on auto part's they would ****. I can buy parts at cost. Does that mean when I work on someones car I am going to give everyone the price I get them for? No. Why? Because I like money.
Business is business. If one guy is selling them for 550 and the other one is selling them for 300. I guess it's your fault you didn't do enough research before you spent your 550.
People like to bitch just to have something to bitch about. It gives you a little tingle in your dick when you go on a rant.
With all the crap that is sold on Ebay shady people are everywhere. As far as I have seen since he has been on this board selling these headers he has been a straight up guy.
How much does he make on the headers? None of your damn business. I would bet companies that make headers for twice the cost probably make more.
It's business. The man is here to make money. If most people knew the mark up on auto part's they would ****. I can buy parts at cost. Does that mean when I work on someones car I am going to give everyone the price I get them for? No. Why? Because I like money.
Business is business. If one guy is selling them for 550 and the other one is selling them for 300. I guess it's your fault you didn't do enough research before you spent your 550.
People like to bitch just to have something to bitch about. It gives you a little tingle in your dick when you go on a rant.
With all the crap that is sold on Ebay shady people are everywhere. As far as I have seen since he has been on this board selling these headers he has been a straight up guy.
How much does he make on the headers? None of your damn business. I would bet companies that make headers for twice the cost probably make more.
did you miss my post? Maybe you should go back and read it.
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I have yet to see a good post come out of you. I have only posted facts and corrected bullshit. If someone's first posts are as good as mine instead of like your first posts, I guess I'd like to be called a troll.
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I'm just correcting incorrect information. I don't care if he sells them for 1000 dollars or at cost. He can do whatever he wants. It's the misinformation in this thread that gets me.
Thanks again.
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Maybe you should reread this whole thread. I said "I think" because I didnt know if they were made in North or South Carolina. Maybe you missed that post.
Since you are so based on "factual statements", where are your FACTS that they are made in China? Have you seen the shop? Have you been there? Do you know the place in NC selling them? Please enlighten me with your extensive experience. What are your experiences with these headers to feel the need to pop into this thread and run off with the verbal diarrhea?
Since you are so based on "factual statements", where are your FACTS that they are made in China? Have you seen the shop? Have you been there? Do you know the place in NC selling them? Please enlighten me with your extensive experience. What are your experiences with these headers to feel the need to pop into this thread and run off with the verbal diarrhea?
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Maybe you should reread this whole thread. I said "I think" because I didnt know if they were made in North or South Carolina. Maybe you missed that post.
Since you are so based on "factual statements", where are your FACTS that they are made in China? Have you seen the shop? Have you been there? Do you know the place in NC selling them? Please enlighten me with your extensive experience. What are your experiences with these headers to feel the need to pop into this thread and run off with the verbal diarrhoea.
Since you are so based on "factual statements", where are your FACTS that they are made in China? Have you seen the shop? Have you been there? Do you know the place in NC selling them? Please enlighten me with your extensive experience. What are your experiences with these headers to feel the need to pop into this thread and run off with the verbal diarrhoea.
If I remember correctly, YOU were the one saying in they're not made overseas and in the Carolinas like it was a FACT. So I ask you, have you seen this mystery shop in NC? Have you been there? Enlighten us more about it. Until then, you are the one running off with the verbal "diarrhoea".
In the end, it doesn't matter at all where they're made. These people saying if they were made on the moon that would be fine are right. Just don't post incorrect information you know nothing about and you won't get corrected.
Im still waiting on your proof. Give the facts on how they are from China? Youre wrong on that point and all youre talking about is "only posting facts". Sounds kinda hypocritical to me.
Ive heard it straight from the horses mouth. The reason it takes so long is things are made in batches. Places like Kooks do the same thing. Theyll make so many sets of headers and then make something else for a while.
Ive heard it straight from the horses mouth. The reason it takes so long is things are made in batches. Places like Kooks do the same thing. Theyll make so many sets of headers and then make something else for a while.
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Im still waiting on your proof. Give the facts on how they are from China? Youre wrong on that point and all youre talking about is "only posting facts". Sounds kinda hypocritical to me.
Ive heard it straight from the horses mouth. The reason it takes so long is things are made in batches. Places like Kooks do the same thing. Theyll make so many sets of headers and then make something else for a while.
Ive heard it straight from the horses mouth. The reason it takes so long is things are made in batches. Places like Kooks do the same thing. Theyll make so many sets of headers and then make something else for a while.
Remember you were the first person to correct someone on where they were made? Do I need to requote you to refresh your memory? You called someone out on where you *thought* they were made and failed to provide proof. Now that you're corrected on something that is COMMON KNOWLEDGE, you demand proof from me? Yeah, I'm the hypocrite alright. Seriously, just Google search about ssautochrome. Everyone and their mom knows it's all produced overseas. If YOU are going to go against the grain and post that it's not, then YOU need to back it up with proof. Don't you think that if ssautochrome had a huge shop it would be documented somewhere on the internet? Someone would have been there or even seen the outside? He would proudly display it on his website? None of this exists because it is a nonexistent NC factory. After almost 10 years and thousands upon thousands of customers, not one person in NC has found his factory ever. Let that marinate in your head for a minute before replying.
You post that someone is wrong, then follow it up with a 'I think'? People like you give forums a bad name with your incorrect posts. If you don't think these are made in China like everything else he has you are seriously out of your mind. The guy on eBay with the eBay name SSautochome lives in NC. He doesn't physically make anything.
Well, there you have it. 1/6 - 1/4 of a YEAR for a simple revisement. Are these made in NC, or does it take that long for the sweat shop in China to reengineer the jig, then reproduce the product, then ship them on a boat to the US, for it to be approved, then for it to be mass produced again and shipped over the ocean back to SSAutochrome in NC, then to the "vendor" on here, then to your door? Put on your thinking cap.
They use mild steel flanges and stainless steel piping to save money. Different metals expand at different rates. Turbo manifolds see extreme temperatures compared to NA, which is why you see the problems in turbo manifolds and not your LSX headers.
The fact that he's not on eBay anymore was not by his choice, it was by eBay BANNING him for being awful. Why would someone with over 40k feedback decide to stop his selling? Get real.
Thw whole funny part is he has been back on eBay using different names for months now. Look up the eBay name discountzoomparts, powerboost29, xs-power, and plazacomplex9197. Right click on the pictures in their auctions and note the .com they're hosted from. Go to the .com.
TA DA!!
It is worthy to note that other eBay names such as 98mkiv and juicyjems are this guy as well but you have to order to view the return receipt for proof on those.
So to tell me this guy isn't on eBay anymore and acting as a supplier on the forums to save his name is simply WRONG on your part. The "vendor" on this forum is a person just like you and I that made the effort to email "ssautochrome" (again, not a company, just an eBay name) asking for a deal on multiple headers if pushed on the forum for him. He laughs and the "vendor" on this forum makes profit (granted probably 1/5th) thinking he's awesome too. Win win I GUESS.
Wasn't there a guy on here selling eBay "too small" corsa clone exhaust tips acting as a "vendor". Same thing. I think he even admitted to making 5-10 dollars on each set of tips. He's gone now and the guy is still selling them on eBay. Chew on that.
Powerboost29 and SSAutoChrome are the EXACT same person with different eBay names. It is not a big deal to have different eBay names, I don't see why people in the forums cannot see past this.
SSAutochrome is a guy's eBay name. XS-Power is the SAME guy's eBay name. They are one in the same.
I can't quote anything else in this thread as I'd be quoting nearly EVERY post in this thread. Hopefully some of you guys with brains will figure it out. I can't possibly spoon feed you this stuff any better if I tried.
Well, there you have it. 1/6 - 1/4 of a YEAR for a simple revisement. Are these made in NC, or does it take that long for the sweat shop in China to reengineer the jig, then reproduce the product, then ship them on a boat to the US, for it to be approved, then for it to be mass produced again and shipped over the ocean back to SSAutochrome in NC, then to the "vendor" on here, then to your door? Put on your thinking cap.
They use mild steel flanges and stainless steel piping to save money. Different metals expand at different rates. Turbo manifolds see extreme temperatures compared to NA, which is why you see the problems in turbo manifolds and not your LSX headers.
The fact that he's not on eBay anymore was not by his choice, it was by eBay BANNING him for being awful. Why would someone with over 40k feedback decide to stop his selling? Get real.
Thw whole funny part is he has been back on eBay using different names for months now. Look up the eBay name discountzoomparts, powerboost29, xs-power, and plazacomplex9197. Right click on the pictures in their auctions and note the .com they're hosted from. Go to the .com.
TA DA!!
It is worthy to note that other eBay names such as 98mkiv and juicyjems are this guy as well but you have to order to view the return receipt for proof on those.
So to tell me this guy isn't on eBay anymore and acting as a supplier on the forums to save his name is simply WRONG on your part. The "vendor" on this forum is a person just like you and I that made the effort to email "ssautochrome" (again, not a company, just an eBay name) asking for a deal on multiple headers if pushed on the forum for him. He laughs and the "vendor" on this forum makes profit (granted probably 1/5th) thinking he's awesome too. Win win I GUESS.
Wasn't there a guy on here selling eBay "too small" corsa clone exhaust tips acting as a "vendor". Same thing. I think he even admitted to making 5-10 dollars on each set of tips. He's gone now and the guy is still selling them on eBay. Chew on that.
Powerboost29 and SSAutoChrome are the EXACT same person with different eBay names. It is not a big deal to have different eBay names, I don't see why people in the forums cannot see past this.
SSAutochrome is a guy's eBay name. XS-Power is the SAME guy's eBay name. They are one in the same.
I can't quote anything else in this thread as I'd be quoting nearly EVERY post in this thread. Hopefully some of you guys with brains will figure it out. I can't possibly spoon feed you this stuff any better if I tried.
I would just like to know who this guy really is. He just joined today but sure seams to know a lot about all the threads and post about these header on Tech so he has been on the board for awhile under some other name. Since signing up this morning the only post he has made is in my thread. Sounds kinda fishy to me. Why don't you post under your real name?
I don't see what all the conflict is about. They're an affordable, stainless header. The driver's side collector on mine was angled up, but I worked it out. Not a big deal. I've recommended them to several people.
I would just like to know who this guy really is. He just joined today but sure seams to know a lot about all the threads and post about these header on Tech so he has been on the board for awhile under some other name. Since signing up this morning the only post he has made is in my thread. Sounds kinda fishy to me. Why don't you post under your real name?
ok im gonna pop in and right back out with this statement.
trolls get the **** over it.
if you dont OWN the headers or Y pipe then SHUT THE **** UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH THEM PERIOD
trolls get the **** over it.
if you dont OWN the headers or Y pipe then SHUT THE **** UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH THEM PERIOD