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Old 04-17-2008, 10:06 PM
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The comparison photo shows the stock manifold heat shield. the actual manifold is much smaller, maybe 1.5" I wanted stock quality fit so I installed 1.75' BBk shorties and random tech Y with super High flow cats to my Hooker cat-back. The headers and y flow much better. The car sounds stock at idle and low rpm, above 2k rpm it's deep and loud enough to draw attention without being obnoxious. I didn't have a single issue with fit or leaks. I also installed an LS6 intake manifold. The car runs great without a tune but this summer I'll get a tune to maximize my gains.
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Originally Posted by King Nothing
or he could just register his car in a smog exempt county
This is a three year old thread, but there are NO smog exempt counties in California. I know this because I have lived there for the past 24 years. It's just now worth the hassel every 2 years.
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yes there is. search harder and you will find them.

does anyone know what headers those are in the pics????
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Originally Posted by 99 Blue Bird
yes there is. search harder and you will find them.

does anyone know what headers those are in the pics????
Please do tell me WHICH counties are smog exempt??? This will be news to me that I would very much appreciate big time. I ended up shipping a car out of state because I could not smog it legally.
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In Julian there is no smog and it is only 15-20 miles away from Ramona and only 40-50 miles from San Diego.Both Ramona and Julian are in San Diego co.
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Imperial county, or at least parts of it, Salton City for sure. Vehicle must get smogged the first time it is registered in that county, after that it's game on.
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Lake County north of San Fran is the same way. Smog once then never again. The smog test here doesn't include the treadmill either. Just the old school tailpipe check.
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Originally Posted by PheonixLS1
Lake County north of San Fran is the same way. Smog once then never again. The smog test here doesn't include the treadmill either. Just the old school tailpipe check.
this is the one i know about. although u need to have a residential address from that county on your registration and drivers licence. a P.O. Box will not cut it.
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Originally Posted by Scoggin Dickey

does anyone know what headers these are
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I think they are Sanderson Headers
http://www.sandersonheaders.com/Chevrolet-LS1-Headers/
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Originally Posted by 99 Blue Bird
does anyone know what headers these are
The bottom picture is the factory exhaust manifold. It looks so large because the heat shield is on it.

This is the reason short headers produce almost no advantage. The factory exhaust is very efficient.
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might be a noob question but, what about shorties with a cutout? would you see some significant change in hp #'s that come close to having longtubes?
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JBAs are the only ones I've seen with a CARB EO#. I swapped to these
(bought used, under $200) from Jet-Hot long tubes and I'm not going
back.
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Originally Posted by 01Z28M6
The bottom picture is the factory exhaust manifold. It looks so large because the heat shield is on it.

This is the reason short headers produce almost no advantage. The factory exhaust is very efficient.
i have 99 exhaust manifolds so im looking for something better. not going with longtubes. been there done that.
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Originally Posted by jimmyblue
JBAs are the only ones I've seen with a CARB EO#. I swapped to these
(bought used, under $200) from Jet-Hot long tubes and I'm not going
back.
they work just as good? im definitely not paying 600 dollars for new ones. i thought all shorties were legal. thanks for letting me know.
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The car got louder, and feels as strong as before. I use a SLP Y which
I had bought, swapped off and saved, and put back. It has a much
cleaner merge than the Jet-Hots. Great long tubes and a crappy
merge can easily be worse than a good shorty based plumbing
lineup. And a stock muffler could defeat them both. And not all
long tubes are equal either.

Whatever restriction is left in the exhaust is not the JBAs' fault; they
flowed enough to blow an O2 sensor out of the hole on the Mufflex
tubes downstream (also used, with worn threads).

Beware of the ones you see on eBay, there are some truly crappy
ones going for about $99 that have bad collector designs (like a
1/2" sharp edge at the flange, turbulence galore). The JBAs have
a nice collector with even a baby velocity spike, and everything is
smooth. BBKs are pretty, I haven't ever looked at the innards.

M6 guys will benefit from the midrange torque build-out from the
resonant scavenging, some. Guys with an A4 and a high stall speed
just don't spend any time in the mid RPM range at high pedal. So
all I need is as little backpressure as can get past the sheriff.



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