Bang for the buck headers
Thanks for the info. I have never seen that before. Can't argue with proven numbers though.
The $540 Edelbrocks were the ti-tech coated ones. I am going by JEGS website so maybe they are cheaper elsewhere. I was looking into the Edelbrocks before I got my Pacesetters but didn't want to spend the extra $150 for headers that weren't ceramic coated and I was under the impression that all LT's were pretty close power wise. Either way, I am very happy with my Pacesetters.
The $540 Edelbrocks were the ti-tech coated ones. I am going by JEGS website so maybe they are cheaper elsewhere. I was looking into the Edelbrocks before I got my Pacesetters but didn't want to spend the extra $150 for headers that weren't ceramic coated and I was under the impression that all LT's were pretty close power wise. Either way, I am very happy with my Pacesetters.
The $445 ones are the ti-tech coated Edelbrocks. For $540, you're probably getting ceramic coating.
All longtubes do not dyno close to the same. That's a myth.
Here's a graph of QTP's vs. Pacesetters. It's just a longtube swap, nothing else:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/700678-results-qtp-hvmc-vs-pacesetters.html
That's a 9rwhp/7rwtq gain peak, and an ~18rwhp/31rwtq gain at ~3100rpms. That's just from a longtube swap. Edelbrocks should do the same vs. the Pacesetters because the Edelbrocks also have HVMC's, have longer primaries and keep the firing order of the engine in mind.
All longtubes do not dyno close to the same. That's a myth.
Here's a graph of QTP's vs. Pacesetters. It's just a longtube swap, nothing else:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/700678-results-qtp-hvmc-vs-pacesetters.html
That's a 9rwhp/7rwtq gain peak, and an ~18rwhp/31rwtq gain at ~3100rpms. That's just from a longtube swap. Edelbrocks should do the same vs. the Pacesetters because the Edelbrocks also have HVMC's, have longer primaries and keep the firing order of the engine in mind.
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If you are going to keep your car for a while, get some nice stainless steel ones. If you are only planning on keeping your car for a year or two, get the cheaper pacesetters. They will eventually rust, but if that does not bother you, get them. They do fit up good, and tuck in nicely. The merge at the y-pipe does make a big difference as stated above.
[QUOTE=ChocoTaco369;8717009]That's true, I also believe the Edelbrocks are a much better deal than Pacesetters.
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Wow i can just imagine the speed bumbs with those elderbrocks!!!
if its about the same hp i would get some that i can live with in the streets...
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Wow i can just imagine the speed bumbs with those elderbrocks!!!
if its about the same hp i would get some that i can live with in the streets...
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What are you talking about? My Edelbrocks don't hang lower then any other headers so don't go spreading false info. My headers and Y pipe have yet to scrape and im lowered 1.5". Edelbrock Y pipe on the DS is slightly lower then the others and that is because its not crushed for clearance. At stock height at the lowest point of my Y headers/y pipe i could fit a beer can with 3/4" of clearance in between.
What are you talking about? My Edelbrocks don't hang lower then any other headers so don't go spreading false info. My headers and Y pipe have yet to scrape and im lowered 1.5". Edelbrock Y pipe on the DS is slightly lower then the others and that is because its not crushed for clearance. At stock height at the lowest point of my Y headers/y pipe i could fit a beer can with 3/4" of clearance in between.
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I would prefer stainless if I have the money at the time. If I were to buy stailess I would go for the kooks. I am going to keep my car for a very long time but I may build an engine later which would require bigger headers...Very good info from everyone I really appreciate it Thank You all.
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If you have the money then go Stainless... It will last forever and is just a better quality... However, a lot of us would like to put money else where, hence Pacesetter...
Now back to the original topic... I run Pacesetter and haven't had any problems yet. They sound good and have great clearance.
You also may want to consider throwing a cut-out into the mix to get the best flow out of everything and sound mean as hell, but also to be able to cap it and go on a nice, quiet drive.. I've got an electric RaceReady out before the muffler and I love the thing..
Now back to the original topic... I run Pacesetter and haven't had any problems yet. They sound good and have great clearance.
You also may want to consider throwing a cut-out into the mix to get the best flow out of everything and sound mean as hell, but also to be able to cap it and go on a nice, quiet drive.. I've got an electric RaceReady out before the muffler and I love the thing..
