RAM AIR Does 'RAM'...Proof inside...
03-30-2008, 10:37 PM
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Any suggestions on what to seal off the front of the air box with? I thought about using some aluminum tape like what is used in duct work.
From my readings it does not matter if it is a Firehawk or SS the FTRA or SSRA gets more air to the air box than the hood ever will. You will use the existing lid base and modify it (according to the FTRA instructions).
From my readings it does not matter if it is a Firehawk or SS the FTRA or SSRA gets more air to the air box than the hood ever will. You will use the existing lid base and modify it (according to the FTRA instructions).
03-30-2008, 10:50 PM
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03-30-2008, 10:52 PM
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[QUOTE=rom my readings it does not matter if it is a Firehawk or SS the FTRA or SSRA gets more air to the air box than the hood ever will. You will use the existing lid base and modify it (according to the FTRA instructions).[/QUOTE]
Correct! You can use the FTRA on any 98-02 Camaro or Firebird including the LS1 and V6 vehicles.
For those people that have WS6 cars, we do also sell the JAAM ram air kit that works to make the hood fully functional.
As stated earlier in the thread though, the bottom breathing design of the FTRA is going to make more power (the JAAM is close).
Correct! You can use the FTRA on any 98-02 Camaro or Firebird including the LS1 and V6 vehicles.
For those people that have WS6 cars, we do also sell the JAAM ram air kit that works to make the hood fully functional.
As stated earlier in the thread though, the bottom breathing design of the FTRA is going to make more power (the JAAM is close).
03-31-2008, 06:18 AM
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Any suggestions on what to seal off the front of the air box with? I thought about using some aluminum tape like what is used in duct work.
From my readings it does not matter if it is a Firehawk or SS the FTRA or SSRA gets more air to the air box than the hood ever will. You will use the existing lid base and modify it (according to the FTRA instructions).
From my readings it does not matter if it is a Firehawk or SS the FTRA or SSRA gets more air to the air box than the hood ever will. You will use the existing lid base and modify it (according to the FTRA instructions).
i used clear caulk for some parts on my custom ram air....
03-31-2008, 10:44 AM
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03-31-2008, 11:13 AM
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03-31-2008, 12:13 PM
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i think i used 3/4" by 3/8" or 1/2" weather stripping the largest you can find as menards or lowes ect...mine ended up being 3 tall for the front gap...dont forget to seal where the ftra comes into contact to the lid base...might wanna use 1/4' thick there...also where the lid base connects to the radiator support...basically where ever you think air might escape....
i used clear caulk for some parts on my custom ram air....
i used clear caulk for some parts on my custom ram air....
I had the weather stripping that Fast Toys sent with the kit which blocked off the front of the air box. It was nice piece that fit really good. For some reason I cut a section out of it which jacked it up. So much for closely reading the directions.
04-01-2008, 12:03 PM
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Fast Toys has done tests and they have found that under-the-hood ram air kits work better. The F-body's operate better when the kits suck air from UNDER the car, not through the hood. Any setup that gets air through the hood will not be able to outperform an equal setup that takes air from under the car.
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I would be intrested to see or know how much more an increase there would be if my car was sucking from bottom as to through my hood.
04-01-2008, 01:03 PM
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Hood and FTRA
Hood
FTRA
I am a newb so I will use the first 5 or so runs getting use to staging and launching. I will then due a few runs with each configuration. They say you can get about 15 to 20 runs so I should have plenty of time. Now I just need to go find the block off plate for the FTRA.
04-01-2008, 02:14 PM
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I know these ram air kits shine at the track,but would they show an increase on a dyno? Not that it matters I'm just curious.
I'll be getting one,just gonna see if I need to move my trans cooler outta the way first to fit the ftra.
How often do you need to clean/change your filter with one of these?
When I had a 95mustang gt I made a cold air kit in the fender and it seemed I had to change my filter left and right LOL!!!!!
I'll be getting one,just gonna see if I need to move my trans cooler outta the way first to fit the ftra.
How often do you need to clean/change your filter with one of these?
When I had a 95mustang gt I made a cold air kit in the fender and it seemed I had to change my filter left and right LOL!!!!!
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04-01-2008, 02:49 PM
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I know these ram air kits shine at the track,but would they show an increase on a dyno? Not that it matters I'm just curious.
no gains on the dyno. the car needs to be moving
I'll be getting one,just gonna see if I need to move my trans cooler outta the way first to fit the ftra.
Maybe If its in the middle
How often do you need to clean/change your filter with one of these?
When I had a 95mustang gt I made a cold air kit in the fender and it seemed I had to change my filter left and right LOL!!!!!
no gains on the dyno. the car needs to be moving
I'll be getting one,just gonna see if I need to move my trans cooler outta the way first to fit the ftra.
Maybe If its in the middle
How often do you need to clean/change your filter with one of these?
When I had a 95mustang gt I made a cold air kit in the fender and it seemed I had to change my filter left and right LOL!!!!!
04-01-2008, 10:11 PM
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Here is something Ive always wondered. I got the SSRA, but I never sealed it all up. I have a ws6 btw. My theory is that with the little help from the hood, and the ssra, im pushing more air up to the lid then I would be sealing it off. Ive studied it over and over, and feel that Ive made a good decesion. Fast Toys, I know its not your product, but what is your belief in this theory for your product and ssra. Just curious.
Dont compair ssra or ftra, they are both great products.
Dont compair ssra or ftra, they are both great products.
04-02-2008, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Originally Posted by ramairjohn2000
so can u use both the jaam and the ftra together on a ws6?
Here is something Ive always wondered. I got the SSRA, but I never sealed it all up. I have a ws6 btw. My theory is that with the little help from the hood, and the ssra, im pushing more air up to the lid then I would be sealing it off. Ive studied it over and over, and feel that Ive made a good decesion. Fast Toys, I know its not your product, but what is your belief in this theory for your product and ssra. Just curious.
Dont compair ssra or ftra, they are both great products.
Dont compair ssra or ftra, they are both great products.
04-02-2008, 10:08 AM
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Here is something Ive always wondered. I got the SSRA, but I never sealed it all up. I have a ws6 btw. My theory is that with the little help from the hood, and the ssra, im pushing more air up to the lid then I would be sealing it off. Ive studied it over and over, and feel that Ive made a good decesion. Fast Toys, I know its not your product, but what is your belief in this theory for your product and ssra. Just curious.
Dont compair ssra or ftra, they are both great products.
Dont compair ssra or ftra, they are both great products.
Correct! You can use the FTRA on any 98-02 Camaro or Firebird including the LS1 and V6 vehicles.
For those people that have WS6 cars, we do also sell the JAAM ram air kit that works to make the hood fully functional.
As stated earlier in the thread though, the bottom breathing design of the FTRA is going to make more power (the JAAM is close).
For those people that have WS6 cars, we do also sell the JAAM ram air kit that works to make the hood fully functional.
As stated earlier in the thread though, the bottom breathing design of the FTRA is going to make more power (the JAAM is close).
JAMM is the way to go when you have WS6 hood
04-02-2008, 10:13 AM
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Here is something Ive always wondered. I got the SSRA, but I never sealed it all up. I have a ws6 btw. My theory is that with the little help from the hood, and the ssra, im pushing more air up to the lid then I would be sealing it off. Ive studied it over and over, and feel that Ive made a good decesion. Fast Toys, I know its not your product, but what is your belief in this theory for your product and ssra. Just curious.
Dont compair ssra or ftra, they are both great products.
Dont compair ssra or ftra, they are both great products.
Using your method, you are only benefitting from the cold air and not receiving any benefits from any pressure increases. With that being said, go seal it up and enjoy some more power!