Muscle car V-8's -if not all V-8- are on a doomed path. Now What?
#23
That makes no sense, though. A turbo V6 won't get any better mileage than a V8. Just look at the STi and the Evo. They don't get any better mileage than we do and they have a turbo I4.
#24
the more things change, the more they stay the same. this is just the late 60's all over again. run away in flation is just around the bend (ask ANY economist), energy costs are one the rise, world peace has never quite been so far away (good time to be in the military tho ) ... just a big old cycle.
hell if this keeps up, i'll be able to sell my T/A for a few hundred thousand in 40 years lol
hell if this keeps up, i'll be able to sell my T/A for a few hundred thousand in 40 years lol
#25
#28
your a communist! how bad is the gas mileage really in a 6speed ls1? i get 23 highway and im damn happy with that. my wifes 03 grand an 4cyl gets like 26 but i have 350hp she has 120 gerbal power..i like the power and with premium getting increasingly close to 4bucks here in so cal, im still not going to ditch my car theres nothing like a v8..plus if u want to save the economy get a motorcycle.
#29
your a communist! how bad is the gas mileage really in a 6speed ls1? i get 23 highway and im damn happy with that. my wifes 03 grand an 4cyl gets like 26 but i have 350hp she has 120 gerbal power..i like the power and with premium getting increasingly close to 4bucks here in so cal, im still not going to ditch my car theres nothing like a v8..plus if u want to save the economy get a motorcycle.
#30
For the last 10-15 yrs the Am. auto industry has thrived on massive unit sales of SUV's, 4x4's, and Pick-ups. Most of this population represented 5500-6500 pound vehicles being hauled around by 330-350 ci V-8's- who's gas mileage hung closer to 15mpg than 27.5mpg. [Dealers won't take these cars in trade anymore]
IF,IF in the next 5 yrs the Auto industry could build a gasoline engine V-8 powertrain that could achieve 35mpg -hauling around SUV's, 4x4's, and Pick-ups- it would be so expensive as to fail on launch. Stop putting gas V-8's in these vehicles. They beg for direct, 'high pressure DIRECT injection', turbocharged modern diesels. Keep the high tech gas v-8's for the performance crowd. Auto CO.'s don't have to make dumb stuff & we don't have to keep buying dumb designs-that way we can still enjoy our tire smoke and still satify C.A.F.E. [BTW 91 octane gas is +$4.00/gal here in northern CA.]
IF,IF in the next 5 yrs the Auto industry could build a gasoline engine V-8 powertrain that could achieve 35mpg -hauling around SUV's, 4x4's, and Pick-ups- it would be so expensive as to fail on launch. Stop putting gas V-8's in these vehicles. They beg for direct, 'high pressure DIRECT injection', turbocharged modern diesels. Keep the high tech gas v-8's for the performance crowd. Auto CO.'s don't have to make dumb stuff & we don't have to keep buying dumb designs-that way we can still enjoy our tire smoke and still satify C.A.F.E. [BTW 91 octane gas is +$4.00/gal here in northern CA.]
Last edited by LS'; 04-13-2008 at 04:35 PM. Reason: clarification, clarification
#31
your a communist! how bad is the gas mileage really in a 6speed ls1? i get 23 highway and im damn happy with that. my wifes 03 grand an 4cyl gets like 26 but i have 350hp she has 120 gerbal power..i like the power and with premium getting increasingly close to 4bucks here in so cal, im still not going to ditch my car theres nothing like a v8..plus if u want to save the economy get a motorcycle.