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Old May 10, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Just got quoted 800 bucks yesterday for a TD setup dumped before the axle. The price includes a pair of magnaflow high flow cats and a pair of magnaflow or flowmaster mufflers. Is this a good deal? Does anyone know of a better deal from a shop here in phoenix? thanks
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Old May 10, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Is it 3" stainless steel? I paid $450 for 2.5" run out the back. I didn't have cats, but it was mandrel bent to the axle and included H-pipe, mufflers and tips. Not to mention four flanges and all hangars.

I think $800 is too much. I'd say an average for a dumped system is $500. Taking into acount your cats, it still sounds like an awful lot. Get all your components from Summit and take them to a shop and it should be much cheaper.
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Old May 10, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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300$ for new high flow cats.. and around 400+ for my true duals from Texas Speed, i'd say they're not far off.

439.99 for true duals... Actually they're online ebay for high flow magnaflows 3" for like 79.99 a piece, so.. plus shipping with both of those sets, your total would be around 650$ plus, and for labor... 150$...

Doesn't sound to bad as long as they do a damn good job of tucking it.
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Old May 10, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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Sounds expensive for a dump before the axle. If they were including all of that AND running it out the rear of the car over the axle, then the price doesn't sound quite so bad. Still a bit high to me though.
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Old May 10, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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If you run cats I wouldn't even buy mufflers. I got the 3" high flow cats and didn't use mufflers and mine are true duals that dumped right in front of the axle. I think it sounds nice, not too loud at idle and when you get on it sounds good.



I have the same cats, PM me and I can send you some photos, I still have to cut them off my old exhaust but if you want I can do that and send photos, they are pretty much new with only 700 miles.

It'll save you some money. Let me know. I'm going BBC so I won't be using them. Then you'd just need 2 or 3 u bends, 2 o2 sensor bungs and some 3" straight pipe. I did mine, tacked it up then took it off the car and welded it all up, needless to say it wasn't even close to 800.00

Here is a photo of one side you cat see the type of cat.
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Old May 10, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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built this in the driveway. total for all 3 inch mandrel bent w mufflers and turndowns, 250. 6 bolts drops the whole system. could have added cats for a lil more.

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^an x probably wouldve helped
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^an x probably wouldve helped
That setup looks butchered.
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never cleaned up and smoothed the welds and used some pieces from a mandrel y pipe that nothing was wrong with bc the bends were what i needed and the y pipe was damaged in a few spots anyway(thats y sections are dark) . the h is homemade obviously but who gives a ****. i started with a summit universal x pipe kit and took the x out bc of ground clearance issues. anyone who sees my exhaust on my car agrees mine is tucked better then any they have or have seen. btw the mufflers reside in the space where the bottom of the torque arm used to be. i notched three inches out of the lowest part of it sloping up to the front and tucked both mufflers up in the tunnel straddling the driveshaft. ground clearance is awesome. i boxed it (torque arm) in for strength also.

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^an x probably wouldve helped
helped what? sound? yes i agree...basically the exact same set up sounded way better with the x. flow? maybe. 3 inch is overkill for my power level anyway. i coulda gone with 2.5 and been fine.
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Originally Posted by RAGENZ28
If you run cats I wouldn't even buy mufflers. I got the 3" high flow cats and didn't use mufflers and mine are true duals that dumped right in front of the axle. I think it sounds nice, not too loud at idle and when you get on it sounds good.
That would be too loud for many; me included. I am running the Magnaflow metallic substrate cats in my dual system w/ a dual in/dual out muffler, and I wish it was a little quieter.
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helped what? sound? yes i agree...basically the exact same set up sounded way better with the x. flow? maybe. 3 inch is overkill for my power level anyway. i coulda gone with 2.5 and been fine.
I like the fact that you made it yourself. More props to you. Who really cares what letter of the alphabet the merge looks like. I make and modify my own setups all the time. I smell what your steppin' in man.

Fact of the matter is anyone that slams you for not making that a "better looking" setup could not have made better themselves. At least not 95% of the people.

OP: 800$ sounds steep to me. I would shop around a bit unless it really is stainless.
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I am paying $800 for 3" over the axle...for a dumped system that is too much.
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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
I like the fact that you made it yourself. More props to you. Who really cares what letter of the alphabet the merge looks like. I make and modify my own setups all the time. I smell what your steppin' in man. Fact of the matter is most of those that slam you for not making that a "better looking" setup could not have made better themselves.
Absolutely. You made it in your driveway? I'm impressed. Good work.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
never cleaned up and smoothed the welds and used some pieces from a mandrel y pipe that nothing was wrong with bc the bends were what i needed and the y pipe was damaged in a few spots anyway(thats y sections are dark) . the h is homemade obviously but who gives a ****. i started with a summit universal x pipe kit and took the x out bc of ground clearance issues. anyone who sees my exhaust on my cars agrees mine is tucked better then any they have or have seen.
I think it looks good. I made my own catback, it doesnt look perfect but hey i made it. Im thinking about going true duals with a H pipe later this year though.
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Old May 11, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
never cleaned up and smoothed the welds and used some pieces from a mandrel y pipe that nothing was wrong with bc the bends were what i needed and the y pipe was damaged in a few spots anyway(thats y sections are dark) . the h is homemade obviously but who gives a ****. i started with a summit universal x pipe kit and took the x out bc of ground clearance issues. anyone who sees my exhaust on my cars agrees mine is tucked better then any they have or have seen.
Man I'm liking that exhaust. I'm going to do one up similar to that for mine. Paint the exhaust and repost it in another thread.. I bet the same people that said its crap unpainted will like it all the sudden.. lol!

$800 for a Dumped TD setup with cats doesn't sound too bad to me.. guys have to remember Cats aren't cheap.
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Old May 11, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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I think $800 is a little excessive, unless MAYBE it's all stainless. I just built a clean dumped true dual setup for a friend of mine and he didn't spend much at all.

$85 for a 2.5" x-pipe kit from Summit
$29 for a pair of Flowmaster 2.5"-3" smooth cone reducers
$68 for a pair of 3" Cherry Bomb glasspacks
Maybe another $20 for a couple hangers, turndowns, and a short piece of 2.5" straight pipe

So, $202 total. I welded his for free, but getting yours welded won't cost $600. You can buy the Magnaflow cats on eBay for like $60 or $70-something a piece.
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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
I like the fact that you made it yourself. More props to you. Who really cares what letter of the alphabet the merge looks like. I make and modify my own setups all the time. I smell what your steppin' in man.

Fact of the matter is anyone that slams you for not making that a "better looking" setup could not have made better themselves. At least not 95% of the people.

OP: 800$ sounds steep to me. I would shop around a bit unless it really is stainless.
i agree, i dont trust my self with a welder thats for sure. lol. much more props on the do it ur self setup.

800 sounds right if theyre using mandrel bent tubing, for the 800 i think u could probably get over axle setup. cats can cost 300 bucks depending on the cat, if its the new magnaflow spun cat then yeah i can see 300 bucks easily, and magnaflow mufflers another 250-300, tips probably 100, labor all depends on the shop.

shop around for the cats and mufflers u might end up saving like 100+ bucks
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i forgot to mention that im a welder. i do think it turned out pretty good considering it was my first exhaust i have ever done. but the actual welding part was cake.
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I think $800 is a little excessive, unless MAYBE it's all stainless. I just built a clean dumped true dual setup for a friend of mine and he didn't spend much at all.

$85 for a 2.5" x-pipe kit from Summit
$29 for a pair of Flowmaster 2.5"-3" smooth cone reducers
$68 for a pair of 3" Cherry Bomb glasspacks
Maybe another $20 for a couple hangers, turndowns, and a short piece of 2.5" straight pipe

So, $202 total. I welded his for free, but getting yours welded won't cost $600. You can buy the Magnaflow cats on eBay for like $60 or $70-something a piece.
Ok so since you've obviously done this a few times can you help me build my list of parts to buy? I think ill just do that and take all my **** to an exhaust shop and have em install it.

-Pacesetter LT's (emissions style)
-pair of magnaflow high flow cats off ebay. 3" in 3" out?
-pair of magnaflow mufflers

Is there anything I'm missing and would you recommend any other type of bullet muffler for a TD setup? Thanks

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