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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 07:03 AM
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Default Throttle Body Compatability 99 to 01?

Looking to purchase a ported throttle body. Friend of mine has a Bauer Stage 2 TB that is on his 99 TA that I am interested in buying for my 01 SS.

I've heard there are some issues with certain years regarding throttle cable linkage lengths, etc.

What years are compatable?
Is there a quick fix that can make them compatable?

Thanks.

Will
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 07:49 AM
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Default Re: Throttle Body Compatability 99 to 01?

I looked up the TB GMPN and they seemed to be the same.
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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Default Re: Throttle Body Compatability 99 to 01?

Hannibal,I don't think they are compatible,the cam on the throttle body that the cable hooks to is not the same ratio as the newer style.
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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Default Re: Throttle Body Compatability 99 to 01?

According to my parts list:

The GM part number for 98-99 throttle body is: 17113390

The 2000-2002 TB part number is: 17113647

I'm not sure what the differences are between them...
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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Default Re: Throttle Body Compatability 99 to 01?

Yeah - apparently I cant use one off a 99. Oh well.

Thanks for the help.
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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Default Re: Throttle Body Compatability 99 to 01?

I used a 2000 TB on my 2002 car, but I guess that doesn't help us much here. I wonder what is different about the older TBs

Jordan
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 01:18 PM
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Default Re: Throttle Body Compatability 99 to 01?

98-99 have a "small" cam on the end of the throttle shaft. 00 and up have "large" cam. If you interchange TBs you might have some difficulty with cable length and getting full travel.

To convert small to large cam or vice versa, the entire throttle shaft has to be replaced. These are not available separately from GM, so you need to get a different TB core.

IMO, you'll be happier with a TB which has the correct cam for your year.
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Throttle Body Compatability 99 to 01?

Just swap the shaft out of your stocker, onto
the new (ported) TB. It's about as simple as
can be, just remove the TPS housing and pop the
end of the shaft with a brass or aluminum drift
(to keep from mushrooming the end).

When I did my ported TB I used an older core,
might've been a truck one. The coolant lines
were wrong, so I did the bypass. The PCV line
was wrong, so I swapped them (you can work the
PCV bung out with a fat Phillips screwdriver;
the coolant lines are too small & tight).
Swapped in my '02 shaft, ground the stop, good
to go.

GM rapes any orifice that wanders in looking for
a TB (like $300), but junkers have to be getting
dirt-common by now.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 12:54 PM
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Default Re: Throttle Body Compatability 99 to 01?

Just swap the shaft out of your stocker, onto
the new (ported) TB. It's about as simple as
can be, just remove the TPS housing and pop the
end of the shaft with a brass or aluminum drift
(to keep from mushrooming the end).

GM rapes any orifice that wanders in looking for
a TB (like $300), but junkers have to be getting
dirt-common by now.
FWIW, if you swap the shaft in a Bauer-ported TB you might want to rework the new one to the same configuration as the Bauer. Not absolutely necessary, but it helps flow a little.

From what I've seen, '00 and up aren't quite yet dirt-common.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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Default Re: Throttle Body Compatability 99 to 01?

if you use a 99 you wont get full throttle the cable is to long.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Throttle Body Compatability 99 to 01?

A little bit of info here in case people are looking for TB cores:

A 98-99 TB has a brown spring on it and a smaller throttle cam.

A 2000-2002 TB has a blue spring on it and it has the biggest throttle cam.

A Truck TB has a orange spring on it and a cam that is close to the 98-99 F-body ones but it's not a dead ringer for it.

The 98-99 and the 2000-2002 do not swap back and forth easily. So it realy should not be done.

Bret
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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Default Re: Throttle Body Compatability 99 to 01?

For example this TB on Ebay is listed incorrectly as a F-body unit when it is in fact a Truck TB.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33558

You can see the orange spring and the wide throttle cam.

Bret
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