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Old 10-24-2008, 11:03 AM
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The PRC 215 is the aftermarket casting.
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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA
Don't worry Mr.2k2 I have dyno graphs comparing them for you. Give us a call & we can get you all kinds of dyno data to help with your decision.

I prefer the Stage 2.5 5.3l heads for the camshaft we're discussing. We can set you up with free milling & thinner gaskets if your looking for the max possible HP gains from this setup.
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With a TR224 112+4 LSA it is not adviseable to mill the head for DCR reasons. Your 5.3L come usualy in 63cc form (mine were) and that allready put DCR in the 8.6x range wich is 91 Octane + range.
Being a single pattern cam, cylinder pressures are high, so IMO from experience, I recommend unmilled, stock gasket if that cam is to be run at 108 ICL. Ramp rate on TR 224 lobes is 50 variation
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/\ agree with predator-z. I have the 5.3's milled .030, stock gaskets I need to flycut to go any bigger with a cam.
out of the box 5.3's with a 230's plus cam would be awesome
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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA
I prefer the Stage 2.5 5.3l heads for the camshaft we're discussing. We can set you up with free milling & thinner gaskets if your looking for the max possible HP gains from this setup.

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This isn't really a max effort drag car, more like a fun street car, as I said it goes to the track once a year, the rest of the time it's a poker run here, and a show there, the occasional parade duty
Now the other fbody I got will more likely be the max effort street/strip setup
Thanks for your help gentlemen, I think I will go with Predators reccomendation of unmilled 5.3's, given the best octane rating around here is 91
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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA
This is a completely inaccurate statement. We actually make more on LS6 heads than 5.3l heads. This is a good example of someone with no actual knowledge about us making a B.S. statement.

The reason we typically like the Stage 2.5 5.3l head is:
  • CHEAPER THAN STAGE 1 LS6 HEADS WHEN YOU GET A SPRING KIT
  • ENGINE DYNO TESTING SHOWS BETTER POWER GAINS COMPARED TO 2" VALVE LS6
  • CUSTOMER GETS STAINLESS / LARGER VALVES FOR LESS MONEY!!
no actual knowledge... wow, the only parts i will put on my car is TSP.. because every single person i have ever talked to, is nice.. and usuallly dont make *** comments like yours.. all i EVER do is talk about how good TSP is..

i was told this BY *********** at TSP.. im not making some blatant statement and do have a clue what i am talking about.... if that is not true than maybe you need to feel some of your own guys in..
Old 10-24-2008, 09:44 PM
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Please forgive me for being so aggressive about this, but you have to understand a few things. We spend way way more time & money developing & testing our combos than anyone else on this site. The reason we recommend something is because we tested it & know it works. Making a claim that we simply prefer something because we make more money on it is just completely unfair.

I bet I spent $10,000 in the last 1.5 months testing our combos. That money was spent to make sure we provide the best products we can, and to make sure we know what combos produce the best power.

Sorry I was so aggressive, but it really hurts when someone makes a comment like that. We try way to hard to do the best for our customers, for a statement to just be thrown out like that.
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So what exactly are 5.3 heads? I know its a noob question but I have never understood this.
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The cylinder head casting that came from a 5.3L truck engine.
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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA
Please forgive me for being so aggressive about this, but you have to understand a few things. We spend way way more time & money developing & testing our combos than anyone else on this site. The reason we recommend something is because we tested it & know it works. Making a claim that we simply prefer something because we make more money on it is just completely unfair.

I bet I spent $10,000 in the last 1.5 months testing our combos. That money was spent to make sure we provide the best products we can, and to make sure we know what combos produce the best power.

Sorry I was so aggressive, but it really hurts when someone makes a comment like that. We try way to hard to do the best for our customers, for a statement to just be thrown out like that.
thats cool, i guess i should have clarified what i meant a little bit more, will for now on! and i am very happy that you guys test on all of your stuff repeatedly, that way i know im getting a good product! ill keep this in mind, and be careful when talking about TSP products! still gonna boast about them though! haha..
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Originally Posted by 2K2WS6TA
Finally got the money for a set of heads and was wondering what set would be better for my T/A its got a TR 224/224 112 lsa cam in it, a set of headers/ory and a catback, and that's it as far as power mods
So which one would be better, it's primarily a show/cruise (including the hot rod power tour) car with a once a year trip to the track, other than that it stays in the garage
My primary concerns are do I need to fly cut the pistons with the cam I have, and the increase in compression (91 octane is the best we can get here) and do I have to upgrade my injectors
So all you gurus, what's your opinion
ive got the stg 2.5 (older style) + TR224@114 and put down 405/390 couple days ago. no milling. M6 with usual boltons
Old 10-25-2008, 01:27 PM
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will the ms3 or ms4 cam work without flycutting with the 5.3 or the ls6 heads?
what is the compression ratios on the stage 2.5 ls6 heads and the 2.5 5.3 heads?
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I'd go with the 5.3s...
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Originally Posted by OffspringZ28
ive got the stg 2.5 (older style) + TR224@114 and put down 405/390 couple days ago. no milling. M6 with usual boltons
what are your heads? are they TSP stg 2.5 5.3L heads?
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Originally Posted by 00 black ss
will the ms3 or ms4 cam work without flycutting with the 5.3 or the ls6 heads?
what is the compression ratios on the stage 2.5 ls6 heads and the 2.5 5.3 heads?
if you have the ms4 you will need to flycut to use the 5.3s.. if you dont want to flycut go with ls6s..

you can use the ms3 with either set of heads as far as i know....

*with the ms4 either set of those heads is going to make for a sick setup..
i went ms4 and ls6..
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i'd go 5.3's for the compression and torque gains!!
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Originally Posted by Abdullah
what are your heads? are they TSP stg 2.5 5.3L heads?
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As stated above: MS4+5.3's=flycut. MS4+LS6 1.5's (stock size valves) will clear.

MS3 will SAFELY clear 5.3 2.5's ONLY IF TSP recesses the valves for it.
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Originally Posted by SOMbitch
As stated above: MS4+5.3's=flycut. MS4+LS6 1.5's (stock size valves) will clear.

MS3 will SAFELY clear 5.3 2.5's ONLY IF TSP recesses the valves for it.
i thought it was something like that..
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5.3 will make more down low but ls6 will make more peak
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Originally Posted by LS1-NAVY
5.3 will make more down low but ls6 will make more peak
See this is what I thought too. Ive told a couple of my friends with auto cars to go with LS6 heads instead of 5.3's because they dont need the low end torque as they have a torque converter. I always thought the LS6 type heads higher power band would be more benificial to an auto. Am I wrong here?



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