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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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I am rebuilding my ls1 due to a spun rod bearing. I have AFR 205cc heads. this car is my dd so i want alot of average horsepower. driveability would be nice. 6 spd car. i was reading on going with a 228 224 110lsa reverse cam or was looking at 228 230 112 reg. cam. which one would be better for my application ? THANKS
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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ive always wanted to see what kind of gains to expect with AFR 205 and a reverse split cam. but i think youll benefit more with the 228/230 cam with the AFR heads.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
ive always wanted to see what kind of gains to expect with AFR 205 and a reverse split cam. but i think youll benefit more with the 228/230 cam with the AFR heads.
i agree, reverse splits have their advantage in stock headed cars because thier bigger intake durations make up for the lack of flow from the heads.

with the AFR's, you're already flowing good numbers, so a traditional cam is going to be a wiser choice

Are you still on the LS1 intake? i didnt see anything in your sig...
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RedRallyeZ
i agree, reverse splits have their advantage in stock headed cars because thier bigger intake durations make up for the lack of flow from the heads.

with the AFR's, you're already flowing good numbers, so a traditional cam is going to be a wiser choice

Are you still on the LS1 intake? i didnt see anything in your sig...
no i will be on a ls6 intake with ported throttle body. dont have my new stuff in sig yet. car is still apart
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 12:29 AM
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Traditional split.. every time..
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 07:25 AM
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depends on what you are looking for. Reverse will give you better under the curve power for your set up.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PewterMNZ
depends on what you are looking for. Reverse will give you better under the curve power for your set up.
thank you!!!! reason why i went with it. ive seen some under the curves between reverse splits and some traditional splits and the reverse splits performed better. reason why the X1 and TR230 are tried and true reverse split cams, i dont know why some people dont get that.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by KMS.1320
Traditional split.. every time..

not always the case bro..
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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That mti x1 cam sounds sahweeet!
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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How many miles did you have when you spun the rod bearing?
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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How many miles did you have when you spun the rod bearing?
102k miles
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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Ive got a custom comp cam 228/230 .588/.592 112+2 cam and love it the driveability is amazing and it put down the dyno numbers in my sig keep in mind i have a GTO which is IRS and usually lays numbers that are slightly lower than a camaro or Trans AM My Dyno Numbers were 387.94rwhp/372.73rwtq. Im planning on porting my ls6 intake and adding a 85mm TB to it and going for 400 or so rwhp then heads and ud pulley and trying for 440 or so wheel. My goal a 500+ crank HP LS1 GTO that runs 11's all motor

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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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Here's an idea.. why don't you call Tony at AFR and ask him instead of listening to random people n an internet forum who may or more likely, may not know what they're talking about.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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I agree with the above....I love my reverse split, but with those heads you'd be leaving power on the table. The reverse splits have their place, just not with top of the line heads.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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Looking at cams Tony ususally runs I have noticed he generally likes about a 4* split with exhaust bias. 224/228 or 228/232 seem to be popular AFR cams on a 346
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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reverse split isn't the way to go, a properly spec regular cam will make better power .
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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for AFR heads tony has alot showed its power with a 224/228 cam. i dont know if the reverse split might be the ideal cam for the AFR heads.
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by KMS.1320
Here's an idea.. why don't you call Tony at AFR and ask him instead of listening to random people n an internet forum who may or more likely, may not know what they're talking about.
so why dont u tell us why tried and true performing reverse split cams suck bro?
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
so why dont u tell us why tried and true performing reverse split cams suck bro?
Becouse Gods engine (ls1) will run with anything in it. And just becouse a car dose ok with a certain cam that doesn't make it right. One of the exsamples up here was a car running 10.6 and 10.2 on the spray. It only picked up 4 tenths with a 100 shot, that doesn't seem that great to me. And you should compare the split cam with something that is spec'ed right then you'll see.
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by willyfastz
Becouse Gods engine (ls1) will run with anything in it. And just becouse a car dose ok with a certain cam that doesn't make it right. One of the exsamples up here was a car running 10.6 and 10.2 on the spray. It only picked up 4 tenths with a 100 shot, that doesn't seem that great to me. And you should compare the split cam with something that is spec'ed right then you'll see.

first off, im not saying reverse split cams are the best cams..of course not. i went with the reverse split cam because they seemed to make better under the curve than a traditional split cam. especially my car being a street car.
go do a search on TR230 everybody and i mean everybody that has ran that cam has loved its under the curve which is what i wanted especially for an off the shelf cam thats already a proven cam. no disappointments. ive seen more threads of guys saying they lacked under the curve performance with there traditional split than those that hated there reverse split.
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