Stroker's come in
Have you changed the valve seals yet?
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FYI - It looks like the nipple part of the PCV is facing toward the catch can. It needs to face towards the intake. Valve seal installation is pretty straight forward. It will take some time, but at this point I would do it yourself just to see if that helps.
Most shops will just pay for the defective parts and not cover any labor. Pretty standard in the world of performance shops.
We have offered to send new valve seals and he had already purchased them from another vendor. I don't have a problem with offering parts to help eliminate possibilities where we can. That being said, we don't cover the labor of other shops. As mentioned above, it is a pretty common practice. It just isn't feasible to to cover labor on everyone who doesn't have the ability to work on their car. We're alway available to help & will gladly inspect the cylinder heads if the customer requests it.
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post 85?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/10645372-post85.html
Were the springs removed and the seals mentioned in post 85 installed?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/10645372-post85.html
Were the springs removed and the seals mentioned in post 85 installed?
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As I said before, several of the seals were checked, which were all in good condition. All of them weren't checked.
Several of you TSP reps said in the beginning, "there is no way that much oil will be consumed through valve seals."
I guess the heads will be coming off within the next week and i'll be sending them back.
Several of you TSP reps said in the beginning, "there is no way that much oil will be consumed through valve seals."
I guess the heads will be coming off within the next week and i'll be sending them back.
You are right, we did say that. It would extremely hard to consume a quart of oil through guides in 75 miles. I would think a couple of the seals would have to be completely gone to actually pull that off. No one is saying that you don't have a unicorn. We have been trying to get you to actually address the problem for the past month that this thread has been going to eliminate different possibilities. Are you going to even change the seals before pulling the heads off? A visual inspection is worth absolutely nothing.
If you want to send us the heads for inspection you are definitely welcome to do so. We would be happy to inspect them, fix a problem if there is one and get them back to you as quickly as possible. In the mean time, you might throw your factory heads back on and see if the problem is fixed. I would be interested to see if anything changes.
Jon
If you want to send us the heads for inspection you are definitely welcome to do so. We would be happy to inspect them, fix a problem if there is one and get them back to you as quickly as possible. In the mean time, you might throw your factory heads back on and see if the problem is fixed. I would be interested to see if anything changes.
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As I said before, several of the seals were checked, which were all in good condition. All of them weren't checked.
Several of you TSP reps said in the beginning, "there is no way that much oil will be consumed through valve seals."
I guess the heads will be coming off within the next week and i'll be sending them back.
Several of you TSP reps said in the beginning, "there is no way that much oil will be consumed through valve seals."
I guess the heads will be coming off within the next week and i'll be sending them back.
welcome to building cars, its expensive and sucks...
And you have obviously succeded. I have spent about $275 in the past month addressing the problem, which still isn't fixed. I've called in a couple of favors from a friend or it would have cost me a good bit more.
At this point, it is much more feesable for me to get a refund and just buy another set of heads. I don't want to pay shipping TO and then FROM TSP again or pay to have an experienced person replace the seals
I'm sorry, but I think i'm ready to try a new set of heads. The PRC's will be pulled off as soon as I have time.
Like I said previously, you are definitely more than welcome to send the heads back for inspection. If there is anything out of spec we will get the problem corrected immediately for you. We still have not determined the problem is in the heads. You will need leak down numbers and ring gaps as well. Adding a catch can has not fixed anything. It has only helped eliminate the PCV problem. Judging by how black the oil is after a couple hundred miles, it would appear you have a blow by issue. That's what we have been trying to get at the entire time. But again, if you would like TSP to inspect the heads, feel free to shoot them back to us and we will get on them right away.
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If he does have a blow by issue then how do you imagine the oil is getting on top of the valves now that there is a catch can in place?
We have offered to send new valve seals and he had already purchased them from another vendor. I don't have a problem with offering parts to help eliminate possibilities where we can. That being said, we don't cover the labor of other shops. As mentioned above, it is a pretty common practice. It just isn't feasible to to cover labor on everyone who doesn't have the ability to work on their car. We're alway available to help & will gladly inspect the cylinder heads if the customer requests it.
Jon
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Are you saying then you would pay for HIS time and HIS labor if he knew how to work on HIS car? I mean, I would think of REGUARDLESS of who is doing the work, that if you sent a faulty part, you would cover their time/labor. Again, that is saying IF it is a faulty part. I do know that your heads have not been confirmed as the problem, and I do know that from what I have read you guys do bang up work in most cases. I would think that IF it is your fault however, that some type of compensation is in order for all of the trouble this guy has gone through. If that is not your normal practice, it should be. Again, this man went through the trouble of installing a part that you sent him, and IF it is bad from the get go, his time (or WHOEVER did the install) is worth being compensated for.
Are you saying then you would pay for HIS time and HIS labor if he knew how to work on HIS car? I mean, I would think of REGUARDLESS of who is doing the work, that if you sent a faulty part, you would cover their time/labor. Again, that is saying IF it is a faulty part. I do know that your heads have not been confirmed as the problem, and I do know that from what I have read you guys do bang up work in most cases. I would think that IF it is your fault however, that some type of compensation is in order for all of the trouble this guy has gone through. If that is not your normal practice, it should be. Again, this man went through the trouble of installing a part that you sent him, and IF it is bad from the get go, his time (or WHOEVER did the install) is worth being compensated for.