i have a deal lined up on a ms4...
currently have a ms3....my springs are only rated at .650 lift....they are dual springs....just scared to go that high on the lift....thats also why i went with the ms3 to begin with when i bought the package...i would hate to break a spring.....but the ms4 SOUNDS SOOOO SICK and with n2o WOW...wicked set up.....whats your openion on the springs and what would you do

 

ms4
why wouldnt you

 

wearing out springs.....all most maxing out the spring every revolution of the cam....BREAKING a spring.....just hate messing with the retainers and locks....and the damn springs....espically when the heads are still on the car

 

Cause it's not enough difference to make it worth the trouble IMO

 

i think its a waste of time keep the ms3 jmo

 

237/242 to 239/242 with the only difference being an lsk intake lobe and narrower lsa won't make a hill of beans difference in that engine, not worth the hassle of a swap.

what are you aiming for with swapping cams? if you just want something to sound rowdy get a gmpp grand am cup cam. if you want something to run i think it'll need a little more attention. any plans for the 273 gears? i hear they make nice door stops...or at least mine did.

 

well the MS4 should be alot better than the MS3 since they revised it. but i dont think its worth the time and effort and money for the hp gains.

 

if you want something to run i think it'll need a little more attention.


is that so.....we are going down that road again i see....you just cant get anything right....there goes the thread...keep your ****** mouth shut

 

My opinion is MS3>MS4.....not worth the swap.

 

?? you mentioned how badass the ms4 sounds...so do you want a cam to go fast or do you want one to lope like mad? i am trying to offer some insight, man, chill out. i meant nothing negative by that comment. if you search you'll see that i ask just about everyone that question when they comment on how "badass" a cam sounds.

 

so where in that answer does "if you want something to run i think it'll need a little more attention" come into play

just f*uck off man no need to reply....there are thousands of threads on this site...no need to polute mine....and before you say it....yes i know it;s a public f*cking forum.....

find somewhere else on the site to give your "expert" advice

 

^^^^^who pissed in your Cheerios . damn dude chill . i mean u asked a question he offerdd an answer if ya didnt like ignore it wtf. and no not worth the hassle to change between the 2 JMO. if its more HP ur after juice that bitch the ms3 loves it.

 

everything i said was regarding a cam. "it'll need a little more attention" refers to the use of a CUSTOM GRIND vs. an off-the-shelf cam designed for a stock-head ls1. so tell me how ya really feel haha. good luck with your cam choice or whatever it is you're trying to accomplish, these engines can run hard with a little attention to setup. i'm done.

 

not worth it at all, its hyped it big time

 

umm.. chill the hell out.

 

Just add some spray if u'r looking for more power...

 

waist of time for the MS4 if the MS3 is already in.

 

wow. really? You ask for help and then act like an *** to someone trying to help you? Did you forget to take your midol?

 

someone gets a little pissy.....




keep the ms3.. theres like 5rwhp difference.. and ms3 gives you more head options in the future..

 

Totally agreed.. I even talked to tsp and asked the difference, they said while the ms4 does out perform the ms3, they "basically make just about the same horsepower, there curves are just a little different"...