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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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First time shopping for cams looking for a sleeper with power at the same time this is my option. 220/224 .570/.580 lsa 116
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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Sleeper go for TR224/224 @ 114

I have that with a set of heads and there are bolt on cars that sound more aggressive (although I have a quiet hooker catback). I recently dynod 405 as well.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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Sleeper go for TR224/224 @ 114

I have that with a set of heads and there are bolt on cars that sound more aggressive (although I have a quiet hooker catback). I recently dynod 405 as well.
Headers? Because I don't want headers.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Sleeper is more LSA like 115 or 116. Much smoother idle with imporvements throughout the entire powerband not just massive jumps in one area. The cheatr cam by thunderracing is a sleeper cam. High lift good duration and high lsa makes it a nice turbo cam/sleeper nitrous cam
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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First time shopping for cams looking for a sleeper with power at the same time this is my option. 220/224 .570/.580 lsa 116
My real question is ,Is this cam bigger than a ls6 cam from a 04 zo6?
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Blk_Ws6
My real question is ,Is this cam bigger than a ls6 cam from a 04 zo6?
yes. its bigger.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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yes it is by far 204/218 550/550

i made right at 380 rwhp in a stalled a4 with a 220/224 114 but it was no sleeper a definate notice in idle...the 116 ahould be tame with queit exhaust.,...
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yes it is by far 204/218 550/550

i made right at 380 rwhp in a stalled a4 with a 220/224 114 but it was no sleeper a definate notice in idle...the 116 ahould be tame with queit exhaust.,...
DAME! You running 11's
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If you do your research here, most people will tell you to do headers before a cam to get the maximum benefit from it. Without doing headers, you are leaving a lot of power on the table with any cam.
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back up a step... get some headers then reopen this thread. then get the Old man sleepers cam from TR!
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talk with partick g if you wanna keep your manifolds and go with the cheatr cam...otherwise get headers and quit all the secrets...haha
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Originally Posted by linegtdt52
Sleeper is more LSA like 115 or 116. Much smoother idle with imporvements throughout the entire powerband not just massive jumps in one area. The cheatr cam by thunderracing is a sleeper cam. High lift good duration and high lsa makes it a nice turbo cam/sleeper nitrous cam
agreed...
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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Headers? Because I don't want headers.
are you serious? if you don't want headers then either keep it stock, or sell it. no point in getting a cam without headers. and im not talkin shortys either.
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No reason to run headers if you don't want to. You just have to chose the cam completely differently. You have to be careful with too much overlap and too big of an intake event. The stock cams have big splits for a reason. A custom cam for manifolds will depend on your total mods and goals. Are you looking for low end power, high end power, better fuel economy, quiet valvetrain, or is it *****-out, but with manifolds. Tons of questions need to be asked before you can decide on what's best for you.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
No reason to run headers if you don't want to. You just have to chose the cam completely differently. You have to be careful with too much overlap and too big of an intake event. The stock cams have big splits for a reason. A custom cam for manifolds will depend on your total mods and goals. Are you looking for low end power, high end power, better fuel economy, quiet valvetrain, or is it *****-out, but with manifolds. Tons of questions need to be asked before you can decide on what's best for you.
This would be the guy to see, as soon as I get some others things done I'm purchasing my custom cam he spec'd for me......I think using Pat G for your cam needs would be the best bet
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Patrick G your right here in New Orleans headers on these cars get no races it scares off others I want my car stock like so people will bet against me see kinda like the NFL
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
No reason to run headers if you don't want to. You just have to chose the cam completely differently. You have to be careful with too much overlap and too big of an intake event. The stock cams have big splits for a reason. A custom cam for manifolds will depend on your total mods and goals. Are you looking for low end power, high end power, better fuel economy, quiet valvetrain, or is it *****-out, but with manifolds. Tons of questions need to be asked before you can decide on what's best for you.


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Patrick G your right here in New Orleans headers on these cars get no races it scares off others I want my car stock like so people will bet against me see kinda like the NFL
That sucks, your giving up 25-30rwhp due to "the crowd"
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headers r more like 12-16 rwhp on a stock car.
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I picked up 25rwhp with my longtubes when I was still bolton's.
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