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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tillery
Yes for the bigger cams to perform at thier peak more compresion is needed. But the power is way up, rpm wise,and not needed for the street. With the right drivetrain setup a person can give them a good run. Granted all is the same as weight ,suspension. Going with 4:88 gears and a 27-28 inch tall tire(15 inch wheel) a 4000 stall, flash it to 4200. A manual could be launched around the same but maybe a different rear gear depending on the first gear ratio. You can get peak performance form any cam by degreeing it. And with a head that is ported as needed. and an intake that has a runner leanth and plenum volume you need for the engine your building. Our engines(LS) make great power over the gen one mainly due to the head design,15 degree. On the older ones going from a stock 23 to a 18 degree is a huge diff in performance. Alot of it also comes down to great marketing. TSP did run awsome#s cam only. But at 2800lbs It should. I dont know all the stats on the car. BTW nice car. You going to paint the bumper too? Like the CETA bumper.
Those were some old pics. I have a CETA on the car now
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 98blueSScamaro
jonas what are you up to now. before you do anything more to the motor get a rear in the car with a least a 4:10 for your m6. other wise one good hook and you will be pissed.
I am just thinking what heads i am goign with next. But i was jsut asking a question why my cam makes more power than bigger cams that is all. Like Brad said and others, i guess it is the right combo. Look at Chris's car...

Right now i don;t have any money to do much. Heads and rear are out for now. but i have a dew goddies going on the car in spring nothing big
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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Jonas what are you planning in that "little" mind of yours NOW?!

Im going with Trickflows in a couple of DAYZ!
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Originally Posted by chrs1313
haha yep and u might wanna get an upgraded tq arm too

you still owe me a race Jonas, am i going to have to wait till you get heads and a 92/92..., you never came to the track in the fall
why race you Chris I know whate your car can do. I have ran against Rob too and he pulls me I only pulled Rob once, but i thik he gave up b/c he was going def from my exhaust
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Welcome to the madness. Lot of experts out there is why big cams are so popular thats all I have to say about that

Nothing beats a proper combo.

Running the biggest cam most aggressive lobes and springs you can find and OEM lifters is the credo for the experts on this site
You think i have a good combo? I mean my 228/232 cam by no means is a big cam, it is quite small. I guess you need other supporting mods for it to go hand in hand
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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dyno numbers dont mean anything except to people whos car doesnt run.

my car must be one of those "improper setups" only makes 395 hp and 380 ftlbs with full bolt ons, heads, and a 228/230 cam.

did i mention i drive 100 miles to the track, change tires, run 11.5's @ 122-123 weighing at 3500#'s and drive 100 miles home
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Originally Posted by litle88
Jonas what are you planning in that "little" mind of yours NOW?!

Im going with Trickflows in a couple of DAYZ!
Nice Zeke. Good luck. I have no idea again what i am planning. I currently will prolly not be dricing my car this summer. Will prolly not until VERY LATE summer
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YOU need to be lowering that damn 4x4 is what you should do!
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Originally Posted by litle88
YOU need to be lowering that damn 4x4 is what you should do!


i am looking at the Pro Kit
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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i agree a proper combo that is proven is the only way to go, also every car is setup different that's why dyno # vary so much, i believe dyno's are for tuning purposes only track number matter most. My t-rex dyno'd at 400 rwhp and 378 tq but i ran 11.8
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Originally Posted by Tally TransAm
dyno numbers dont mean anything except to people whos car doesnt run.

my car must be one of those "improper setups" only makes 395 hp and 380 ftlbs with full bolt ons, heads, and a 228/230 cam.

did i mention i drive 100 miles to the track, change tires, run 11.5's @ 122-123 weighing at 3500#'s and drive 100 miles home
how come only 11.50s with that mph...60ft must have been around 1.80...nice mph though u are making huge power...u have high 10s with some hook...
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Originally Posted by cyacops
i but i ran 11.8
is that fast or slow
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Old Dec 26, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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I'm running a torquer 2 and GTP stg 2+ H/C setup and have beaten numerous H/C cars running big cams (MS3, MS4) cam only and some with PRC LS6/5.3 2.5 setups. Only big cam I've lost to is a car running Vindicator and 125 shot, and that was only by half a car.
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Part of the problem is, well for me is the heads I was sent, have too large of a intake runner volume. I need to get something like a 215 to get the VE I need. Now for an engine size say the 413-427 the PRC LS6 2.5 would be great. For one valve size can hurt performance because it gets to apoint the hinder flow for a given engine size. AFR has capitalized on this, And Trick Flow has had a different combustion chamber shape to help swirl air into the chamber. Next is that valve events of the smaller cams compared to the larger. A person dont need to spin an engine to the moon to make power.
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