vettenuts

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One LS1 specific tool to consider is the Crankshaft sprocket which is used to turn the crank and it holds the degree wheel. Very nice piece made by Comp, part #4914.

Irocss85

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yeah, it fits over the oil pump drive.



and if your doin heads at the same time, this is a very nice tool. simplifies it. works for sbc, LT1, bbc, and gen III's.




dont remember the part #, but if I rememver right its made by comp cams

darknessxyz

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I'm kinda confuse about the adjustable timing set. Say I installed a cam with the LS2 timing set, how do I do the adjustment?

bigfatls6

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You cant because the ls2 set will not be adjustable like an after market adjustable timing chain set.

405HP_Z06

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Here's a thread that discusses tools.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...-write-up.html

darknessxyz

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So I've to install the cam dot to dot? If I change to something like Rollmaster, do I still have to degree or just adjust the timing set?

405HP_Z06

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Agree^^^^I have the same socket and found out after I purchased it that Powerhouse Products has the same socket for half the price of the Comp Cams socket.

Here's a link to the Powerhouse: LS1/LS6 Crank Turning Socket

vettenuts

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Arrrggghhh!!!!!

PREDATOR-Z

Actually yes, you can adjust any timming chain if you know what you're doing with a degree wheel. I run LS2 chain/gears and just move around the gear.
I use paint to make my marks for reference. There is no magic in the adjustables, they just save time.

Sales2@Texas-speed

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If you get the tools linked to in this thread from any of the many sources, you can verify your valve events. If they are advanced or retarded from where they were intended (see your cam card), you can use an adjustable timing set to adjust those events by advancing/retarding the cam timing at the sprocket. Without the adjustable set, you cannot adjust it (yes, I know it sounds painfully obvious). BUT, you would at that point know where you stand and whether or not the cam timing is where intended. You can add the adjustable timing set anytime down the road and dial those VE's in if desired.

WS6RED2002TA

Hey Matt,

This maybe a dumb question but I thought I would ask anyways. Do you degree cams that are done in your shop. I am planning on have you guys doing my H/C swap and wonder if you guys would do this as part of the job. Or would there be another fee. Thanks for your help.

mathia

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Actually it isn't half the Comp Cams socket price. That web store is confusing, but the $26 price is for the SBC version. When you select the LS1 version it doesn't update the price, but when you got to checkout you'll see it adds $18 which puts it at the same as the best price I found the Comp Cams version for.

CamaroSS22

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when i did my cam i found that it was 8 degrees off. I talked to texas-speed and they think that it may have been degreed wrong.

vettenuts

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OK. I will say it is a very nice tool and it would be expensive for them to make. There is quite a bit of machining in it.

NOBR8KSS

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My cam was roughly 4 degrees off when I installed it "dot-to-dot". Not to move off topic, but if someone needs a degree kit, I still have the Comp Cams "in-car" version I used to degree my cam. I don't need it anymore and could sell it off.

I used an adjustable timing set to make my life easier.

The most difficult part of degreeing the cam (for me) was getting the dial indicator secured on the valve-tip. Since the rocker mounts are radiused it really made it hard to get that thing secured. After 6 hours, though, I got the cam within .3 degrees of the right ICL...I was tired by then and figured it was close enough.

I'm sure there is some tool that could have made that easier...but I didn't have it.

greatskiiiier

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so if your getting the car dyno tuned after the fast, they can advance or retard the timing in the tune?

basically if you get the car dyno tuned you dont need to degree the cam?

Irocss85

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I meant an engine dyno, not a chassis dyno.

no no, it has nothing to do with the "tune" of the car. that is adj. the IGNITION timing, and fuel curves. changing the cam timing is a mechanical change. when the valves open/close relative to when the piston is at tdc. you can make them open earlier or later.

1fastmofo

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so am i understanding this correctly you can not degree a ls2 chain setup?

1fastmofo

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wow!! nice info..these forums need more people like you who take the time to relay info when they can/want to

HavATampa

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Very good info here and in the links. Thanks guys! There is nothing more frustrating when degreeing a cam and trying to be very accurate with points of degrees and very small measurements to have your tools move around on you or the degree wheel spin accidentally. Pay a little now and buy the right tools to hold the dial indicator properly to the engine as indicated in the link that 405HP_Z06 posted and the crank turning socket to hold the degree wheel tight. I wasted a lot of time on my last cam change due to figuring a way to hold the dial indicator stable with an aluminum engine and how to keep the degree wheel from moving while rotating the engine with a crank bolt. BTW, for an in car degree wheel, a 9" one works perfect. Not sure how well it will fit with the Comp Cams socket though since it pushes it farther out.
I found out all small parts to hold the dial indicator to the head can be ordered from one site, www.Mcmaster.com. The only difference is the 12mm tubing has an inside diameter of 9mm instead of 8mm.