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Old 01-10-2009, 10:33 PM
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whats everyone using? I currently have a 246 248 .614 .615 114 my 383 with patriot heads(62cc) and -7cc pistons so the dcr is really low.
I was suggested to use a 242 248 .621 .615 111 +2 or +4 about a year ago but never got around to switching. anything new out I should try?
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239/243 .612/.617 113+3
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I am also interested. I am planning on a 383 on the future (as soon as budget permits) so this will be great info
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A 383 will want around 6 degrees more overlap/duration to behave like a smaller 346. Look at the popular, strong running 346 combos with similar mods and street manners close to what you want, add 6 degrees and that will get you in the ballpark to get started.
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Both of those two cams are bigger than needed for a 383ci engine.
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the 246 248 idles like a tr224
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Exactly the information I am also looking for! Keep it coming! I was considering either the MS3 Or a custom grind around 239/249/.600.609 111.5......Not sure what to go with.
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Originally Posted by 1BADAIR
the 246 248 idles like a tr224
Yeah but it gives up a lot of torque through out the entire power band. A cam in the 23X/24X duration will make as good or better power and better torque.
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I was just playing with the DCR calc. How would a 236 242 .602 .610 111+4 work.
On the street it would probably be better but what about on the track. How about with a 150-200 shot?
would a lsk 242 .621 work better on the exhaust?

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Originally Posted by 1BADAIR
I was just playing with the DCR calc. How would a 236 242 .602 .610 111+4 work.
On the street it would probably be better but what about on the track. How about with a 150-200 shot?
would a lsk 242 .621 work better on the exhaust?
Good cam for a 383. Comparable to a 230/236 in a 346. Now you're getting cams that are more appropriately sized for excellent street/strip action. The earlier EVO you get from advancing your cam +4 will help reduce pumping losses on the spray. It will be good on a 150-200 shot.
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do you think it would gain or lose power over the cam I have.
from what I can tell the dcr will go from 7.60 to about 8.5
btw. that 230 236 cam you posted runs great in a cam only ls2 too
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I'm using an off the shelf Comp 287, 238/240 605/609. Seems to pull pretty hard but I just have a mail order tune and I know it needs more tuning.
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241/245 .645 .633 114 +4 and direct port nitrous.The cam has good streetability and pulls hard when running NA.1.67 short = 10.57 @138.54 on spray.

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Originally Posted by AlohaC5
239/243 .612/.617 113+3
I ran that cam on a 112+4 in my Z06. It was a good cam. I now run a 244/250 .646/.612 on a 112+4. Both work really well. If I wanted to have more of a street car I would stick with the 239/243 cam.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
A 383 will want around 6 degrees more overlap/duration to behave like a smaller 346. Look at the popular, strong running 346 combos with similar mods and street manners close to what you want, add 6 degrees and that will get you in the ballpark to get started.
That was the rule of thumb I used for my 383. I like 224 cam'd 346's so my 383 has a ~ 230 cam
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I have no driveability issues at all with the 246 248. it seems really mild to me. I drive it about everynice day in the summer. I don't even think something like a 258 264 would bother me at all.
my car has a faceplated trans and spool so driveability isn't a huge concern

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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
That was the rule of thumb I used for my 383. I like 224 cam'd 346's so my 383 has a ~ 230 cam
230/230 is not consider a large cam by 346 standards.I am not trying to knock your set up,however,you are leaving a lot of power on the table with such a small cam by 383 standards.If you would have went a bit larger on the duration side your power (HP/TQ) would have increased nicely with no loss of streetability.
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I would lean toward Pat and *****'s advice. They do this everyday for a living so they know their stuff
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Originally Posted by nobreaks254
I'm using an off the shelf Comp 287, 238/240 605/609. Seems to pull pretty hard but I just have a mail order tune and I know it needs more tuning.
That is the cam I am running, but it just seems I am leaving something on the table. I will probably recam in the summer.


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