[QUOTE=silverLSWON;10829627 i am liking the results of this el toro cam. i dont mean to highjack but does anyone know wh lobes the el toro is ground on?[/QUOTE]


230/230 .612/.592 111 + 2 XFI/X-ER lobes = El torro

 

anyone have a clip of what this el torro cam sounds like???

 

First page..

 

whoops duh, i am at work so i didnt even look

 

well now i think i am trying to deside between the torquer v3 and the "el-torro". To help, does anyone else have or know anything more about the el torro cam??? I can only find chris1313 and other than that, nothing. let me know please. thanks

 

I can vouch for Chris. That damn car just flat gets it.

 

im not trying to hijack here, but i am debating between similar cams. I was all set to go with the torquer v.3, but then i heard that the springs wont last?? even with the upgraded double springs, will they only last 15,000 miles? If this is the case, then is it the same for the torquer v.2? or what about something smaller, like the 228r? I think the performance of the Torquers, and El Torro sound perfect, but i dont want something that im going to have to be worried about the springs all the time...

 

i think the only one to be really worried about is the t3 cuz it is such high lift and the springs max out at .660, thats one good thing about the t2 and el torro, i def. like the dyno #'s that chris put down with out heads, thats awsome

 

i heard the T3 is a beast!!! meaning it performs very well and has very nice low end TQ. i will be using ported ls6 heads and i dont know if the the PTV will be all that great because off all the lift the T3 has. kinda why i wanted to know more about the el toro cam. i seen people make around 450 rwhp through a 12 bolt with the 233-239 cam, heads and ls6 intake. that cam is pretty easy to tune, just like mt Tv2 cam was. if you get the 233/239 cam or the Tv2 cam, i would get it on 111 LSA. i am sure either way you go, you will be fine.

 

Since the El torro is custom...how easy is that cam to tune??? im sure theres a few peeps that like to know too

 

Wouldn't be any different than off the shelf grinds I'm sure.

 

Yea im in the same boat debating on a Cam, and i dont want to have to get the valve springs replaced every 2 years, i drive my car alot! When its summer time it is all i drive every single day. my buddy has the older version of the 233/239 cam, which i believe was 230/237, but i really dont want to have to worry about when my springs will be shot. so im subscribing to this thread.

 

my buddy had the older cam. 231/237 on a 112 lsa (lingenfelter grind)with patriot ls6 style heads. he drove the **** out of that combo. i am talking over 20k HARD miles and ran the best of 11.57 full wieght/trim. he had patriot gold valve springs and never had any spring issues.

 

IDK i've been looking at at cams for a very long time and i wanted a big cam like a MS4 but since it has high lift and you have to rev alittle high mind u my car is a DD so i was scared but that El-Torro looks like it would work perfect for me and get the job done... more info/results on the cam would be great... what type of lobes does it use?? what rpm would i be spinning the motor to and shifting??

 

^^^^^Here are the specs. I am pretty sure i am going with this cam, i wanted a bigger cam also but i this one seems to have everything i want, makes power, dont have to rev to the moon to make that power, runs good as a street/strip car, and it sounds good.

 

Well i finally have the money to buy a cam. What does everyone think.
Choses are now...
1. El-torro
2. Torquer V.3
3. Torquer V.2
4. Other and list why???

 

if your stuck between the torquer v2 and v3 trevor from tsp said this :

"The problem with camshafts is that they're completely subjective. What one thinks is perfect another thinks is too big, too small, too much, not enough, etc. Below are the specs on both camshafts:

Torquer v.2: 232/234, .595"/.598", 112 or 113 LSA standard
Torquer v.3: 231/234, .643"/.598", 111 LSA standard

There were a few goals in designing the T3 cam:

1. better low-end and mid-range compared to the T2
2. more aggressive ramp rate on the intake for better power
3. all around great street/strip cam that is very driveable with a good tune

As you can see, the T3 does have one less degree of duration @ .050" on the intake. It's a more aggressive lobe that ramps up faster vs. the lobe on the T2. It provides greater net lift and allows for quicker opening and closing of the intake valve. Again, whether or not a cam works great in the mid-range is dependent on what you're comparing it to. A smaller cam like our 224R or 228R will provide you with a little more low-end power, but it won't make as much peak power. The T2 camshaft was designed to give customers the ability to make some great power without going too big on cam and without feeling like they didn't go big enough. The T3 was just a revision of the T2. With all other variables of a camshaft held constant, a tighter (i.e. lower numerically) LSA with added advance will help low-end and mid-range power. You can change just these two aspects and completely change the characteristics of how well a camshaft works. The goal is to find the happy medium where the cam works well and makes great power without falling off too quick up top or completely lacking any oomph down low. Some of these issues cannot be 100% solved with adjusting LSA and ICL. A lot of duration relative to the size of the engine is still going to have certain characteristics that go along with it, no matter the LSA or ICL.

The net result is that the T2 and T3 will make comparable power. The T3 is going to provide you with a little more low-end and mid-range power vs. the T2, and it also gives you the capability to use a little more of the flow potential of a good set of ported heads.

Trevor
Texas Speed & Performance"

i was looking at the v2 until i read that since then im going to be getting my v3 here soon for summer fun

 

I still vote number 1!!! but if u didnt go with that then number 3 for sure ...dont care for that .649 lift on the Torquer 3

 

Personally I would say streetsweeper HT

Its in the same range as what you're listing, power comes on at about 2500 in a stock bottom end LS1 and with my worked over 243's it hangs on til 6.9K. Sounds mean has awesome street manners, makes a **** ton of power....its the perfect all around cam for a street/strip vehicle IMO. I also use the car for auto X so its a good medium for that since I have power down low and I can hang onto the gear for quite a while....

Here is a vid. The car CAN hook but I was ******* around...just gives you an idea of how quick the power comes on...thats pretty much rolling into it off idle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtozj...e=channel_page

 

I vote torquer v2. I have it, with the tsp dual spring kit.
my goat makes 420rwhp and 400rwtq. w/just pacesetter LT's,full magnaflow catback,no cats,LPE cai, and dynotune. stock heads/stock intake. car runs low 12's on stock shifter/clutch.

ran a best of 12.01 at 114mph twice. on slicks/skinnies.

the power seems to come on at around 3300rpm's or so and builds great till I hit the rev. limiter at around 6500rpm's. I can't wait to put a fast intake, and rework the heads....

Here is a vid. on how it sounds, this is right after I had the cam put in. and the next vid is me running a 440rwhp. 04' cobra on a diet. I did redlight so I got the loss. but I held him off and was pulling on the big end. damn nerves...lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE_uYaUnY3g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7i3xuHMe3s