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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Depends on what you want.. My buddy has a 2001 SS with 233/239 112 LSA cam from TSP aswell as PRC 2.5 Heads and a FAST 92. That cam makes **** for power with his setup. He makes 408rwhp with that setup.

I'd say go with Torquer 2, that's what I'm going with this March.
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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 07:35 AM
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Another for torquer 2. Mods and numbers in the sig. And that was on a mustang dyno with no pulley or a f.a.s.t. ! I was in the same boat as you but stayed away from the lift of the v3. Your gonna be happy with whatever you decide to go with because they are all very similar and your cars gonna be a new beast !
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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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I'd go 233/239.
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MoNoXSizzlE
Depends on what you want.. My buddy has a 2001 SS with 233/239 112 LSA cam from TSP aswell as PRC 2.5 Heads and a FAST 92. That cam makes **** for power with his setup. He makes 408rwhp with that setup.

I'd say go with Torquer 2, that's what I'm going with this March.

I don't know? I made 441rwhp with the 233/239, a Fast 90/90 and PRC 5.3 2.5 in my 6 speed. Maybe the tuner was not that good, or remember a hot humid day will also affect HP readings.

One of my buddies made 447rwhp and he was running a LS6 intake, the same TSP 5.3 heads and a 233/239. Mostly all of the cars i have seen that have that cam make good power.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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my 233/239 cam ****** flew at the track. I went an 11.53, while lifting (was in first round of a bracket race), while banging the rev limiter between the 2-3 shift because the tranny was garbage. I had 100% stock heads, a stock throttle body, stock LS1 intake, stock ud pulley and no EWP. It only put down 374 on the dyno, but if I can run an 11.53 on a lift (went like 113mph that run, the previous run I went a 59' because i spun like a **** but also had 118.8 mph) then id say that cam works damn well and makes more power than all of those other ones.


And about the sound..... (my frend added in the music) but here's the clip

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...ORY_136380.htm
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 415470hp
I don't know? I made 441rwhp with the 233/239, a Fast 90/90 and PRC 5.3 2.5 in my 6 speed. Maybe the tuner was not that good, or remember a hot humid day will also affect HP readings.

One of my buddies made 447rwhp and he was running a LS6 intake, the same TSP 5.3 heads and a 233/239. Mostly all of the cars i have seen that have that cam make good power.
Yeah, it's Sean from SolidTechnology here in Albuquerque.. He's pretty weak at tuning. And it is a M6.

Those are some good numbers though man, who tuned your car? I've been telling my buddy to get a mail order tune from TSP, I'm thinking that should bump up his HP because TSP knows their cams best.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 06blackGTO
I vote torquer v2. I have it, with the tsp dual spring kit.
my goat makes 420rwhp and 400rwtq. w/just pacesetter LT's,full magnaflow catback,no cats,LPE cai, and dynotune. stock heads/stock intake. car runs low 12's on stock shifter/clutch.

ran a best of 12.01 at 114mph twice. on slicks/skinnies.

the power seems to come on at around 3300rpm's or so and builds great till I hit the rev. limiter at around 6500rpm's. I can't wait to put a fast intake, and rework the heads....

Here is a vid. on how it sounds, this is right after I had the cam put in. and the next vid is me running a 440rwhp. 04' cobra on a diet. I did redlight so I got the loss. but I held him off and was pulling on the big end. damn nerves...lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE_uYaUnY3g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7i3xuHMe3s
What's your '60 foot? I would think with that power you could run faster.

Another big question to me...couldn't you make the same power with the T2 if you just lowered the LSA? Maybe even comparable to the "el torro". Besides a choppier idle with a lower LSA, any other draw backs?
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Hmmm I got 412HP out of 233/239 don't know which version exactly.....but stock 853 heads...
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Got the TRQ2 on a 112lsa and love it! Street manners are awesome, mileage around 20 mpg, idle sounds great and track times aren't too bad for cam only. 11.85 @ 118 with a 1.71 60ft. Talking with Madman now about some springs and shocks, hoping to hit some 1.50 60fts and maybe a high 11.50. My goal for 2010 is to add a Fast 92/92, TSP 5.3s and hopefully bust some 10.90s NA with some more weight reduction. My vote deff goes to T2, good luck!
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by allbaugh_04
What's your '60 foot? I would think with that power you could run faster.

Another big question to me...couldn't you make the same power with the T2 if you just lowered the LSA? Maybe even comparable to the "el torro". Besides a choppier idle with a lower LSA, any other draw backs?

60ft's are in the 1.7 range. sidestepping the clutch at 4,000rpm's.
stock clutch,shifter,suspension.
I now have dragbags. and alittle more weight reduction. and added timing to the tune. Im almost pos. the car will hit 11.8's or .9's now and should trap around 117mph.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Transgression
i voted T2 but u'll be happier with a "El torro" cam 230/230 .612/.592 111+2 thats cam will make alot more under the curve power(TQ) and peaks close to the same as above cams proven
I have the el toro and its a nasty little bitch.

I'll post sound clips and a full review really soon for sure, just waiting a tune before I give it my final thoughts.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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I have the "EL Torro" but yet to install it... and I've had it for over 4 months now
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 09:06 PM
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well i ended up getting a ms3 from a bunch of my friends for my bachlor party back in aug. My mind got made up for me so it made it easier... Now just have to come up with the $1,200 of other stuff i need to put the cam in!!!
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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I have the torquer2 in my nice weather daily driver SS. Stock 853 heads, full bolt-ons, it made 400/370 and I've been 11.83 @ 116 w/ a 1.62 short time leaving at 5500 rpm.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by najaf4life
I have the "EL Torro" but yet to install it... and I've had it for over 4 months now
dude i had the TR230/224 cam in my room for almost a year and a half lol now i have a TR227/224 in my room and it's been there since april i think but hopefully it'll goin in next month with the new heads
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Summerwolf
Personally I would say streetsweeper HT

Its in the same range as what you're listing, power comes on at about 2500 in a stock bottom end LS1 and with my worked over 243's it hangs on til 6.9K. Sounds mean has awesome street manners, makes a **** ton of power....its the perfect all around cam for a street/strip vehicle IMO. I also use the car for auto X so its a good medium for that since I have power down low and I can hang onto the gear for quite a while....

Here is a vid. The car CAN hook but I was ******* around...just gives you an idea of how quick the power comes on...thats pretty much rolling into it off idle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtozj...e=channel_page
This is exactly what I'm looking for, thanks for the info!
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
isnt V3 better then V2 for under the curve power??
mad power under curve , but power up top too, my car made 390 at 5400 and peaked at 394 at 6800, but never dropped below 390 clear to 7100, so it makes top end too. i forget what it made in the lower rpms, like 2500 or 3, but i was reallly surprised
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by King Nothing
dude i had the TR230/224 cam in my room for almost a year and a half lol now i have a TR227/224 in my room and it's been there since april i think but hopefully it'll goin in next month with the new heads
why buy a cam and not install it?
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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i have the torquer v3. car is tuned very weak so i cant completely give you a yes or no. but to me it pulls pretty hard at 3-6500 ish. but like i said my tune isnt the greatest, only thing im skeptical about is the intake lift.
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I vote 233/239 cam. My car made #'s in sig. Car pulls so hard from 3500-6500. I'll be heading to track once is starts warming up again
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